ok thanks for the feedback and i shouldn't be hijacking this post just commented on comments made on it regarding flipping the same tire on the same alloy/rim..... apart from the tread direction and risk of aquaplaning(not good) just wondered if there was a difference in side-wall strength between the side of the tire labelled inside and the sidewall labelled outside, did some digging around and found only some goodrich tires being mentioned as having some tires with an increased wall strength on the outside.....