huh, i always thought i was doing the right thing by changing into neutral when stationary in stop start driving, however after reading through the above links it seems that if one is in stop start driving the trans adapts and stays in second gear, unless speed goes over 40 mph or the trans is shifter to sport or NEUTRAL.

i always thought i was doing the right thing by easing the load on the torque converter and that in tern would keep heat down.

i going to have to re-evaluate this in light of the above