This is just a side comment... perhaps philosophical...

There is a weird 'class' or money issue that often comes up- Dinan has this down to a T... it is probably best encapsulated with the statement, "if you have to ask, maybe you can't afford it"..or "you pay to play".

I've always found this objectionable. I am driven by content and performance- and value- and not by what something looks like or how much it costs. To say "I buy expensive stuff because it is expensive, and therefore is better", is just dumb.

Now to the topic at hand: I personally believe that Michelin makes a superior product. I've moved around to many brands- Pirelli, Yoko, etc on the fast cars, and find myself back at michelin. (Although for tracking the P car I use cheaper rubber, ) Same with another SUV: Cross Terrains, for 5 sets, then Geolanders for two, but now back to Mich.

I make the recommendation based on the total 'deal', and my perception of the overall value- NOT because they are expensive and 'what do you expect, its a $70k car?'.

I am guessing that Tony above has the same perception.

I just mention this as I've picked up a vibe here in the thread about this, and wanted to make that distinction.

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