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Originally Posted by JCL
I find it easy to deny my business to companies that have misleading marketing practices. Maybe that is just me.
I look for independent certification to published standards, things like API, rather than the colour of the packaging.
I don't know the anonymous engine builder, but since Amsoil operates a multilevel marketing program, he is most likely getting paid for his recommendation. That is how Amsoil, Amway , etc, operate. What is in it for him? A percentage. He doesn't have to hope for an engine failure, that would be a logical fallacy. He just gets to collect his share of the sales.
Redline? Another oil that doesn't typically certify to independent standards, such as API. They are the ones that say to use their Dexron-clone ATF in ZF transmissions, despite the known problems associated with doing so.
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A Ponzi Scheme Called America
I would suggest that the worlds economy is one big ponzi scheme.
JCL, you're obviously very well versed in these issues and respected for your opinions.
How much does it cost to play in the game of "certification"? Do you think cost could be a factor...or is it free for companies to have their oil "certified"?
You're smart, you know where I'm going with this. I honestly don't know the answer, but suspect that it's probably quite expensive to "certify"...which knocks out any of the small competitors to the large multi-nationals.
"Independent"...define Independent analysis/certification. Yes, I'm quite skeptical that these "findings/certifications" are completely and totally independent...unless they're getting paid an enormous amount of money for such certifications...which again puts me back to my first concern with small companies not being able to compete. I've seen in too many cases where the game is rigged. Heck, our entire energy policy here in the US is rigged. Uggghhh.
No doubt, there's a part of me that wants the underdog to win. I'm sick of the multi-nationals calling all the shots. If Stickley is making money off of a client using Amsoil...it can't be much. Not to mention, it's very easy to sign up and buy it directly from Amsoil.
Like I said, no dog in this fight. My last oil change, I actually used Mobil 1 5/30 extended life. I used it because it was available and wanted to see if I liked the oil or not. I'm not going to use it on my next oil change. I'm going to put my money with the underdog and see what happens. If I don't like the oil...I'll report back.
