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Originally Posted by noncom23
So you are saying all the assaults, robberies, sexual violence happened without guns? Forget the fact that you backed up the statement that the bureau didn't even exist?
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I am saying focus on the statistics for violent acts that included firearms, and don't warp the numbers by including acts that didn't, at least in relation to a discussion about gun violence. We would be able to better determine correlations then. Not clear on your bureau comment. There is no bureau. There is an institute, though. Those just aren't their numbers.
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JCL, you can twist this any way you want. Look at Europe. I did.
Clearly their gun violence is higer than the US.
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Disagree. I posted earlier in this thread on that exact point. I won't repeat it.
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Do some real research for once. Or just admit you are against guns and get it over with. We won't blame you. Your Socialist stance is fine.
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I am against gun violence. Guns are inanimate objects, I don't hate them or love them. I don't think much of gun culture. Not sure why there is apparent shame or blame in any of that. Don't understand your reference to a socialism. You know nothing about my politics. Socialism is a long way off, though.
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But we have a Constitution here in the US. It is still the law of the land,
despite the disdain of many. The Second Amendment stands. Sorry
you disagree. Your argument for a Modern Society is just another
baseless attempt to take away OUR rights. We fought for these rights
once, and thats why we have weapons now.
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You are entitled to your opinions. I don't know why you would ascribe disdain to your constitution to others here, maybe you don't mean me. The constitution talks about well-regulated in talking about the reasons for an armed society, so I don't personally see the conflict, but that is up to your country. I don't get a vote. But why is Modern Society capitalized?
I think if guns are going to be used to fight 'tyranny' then the challenge is that the oppression of society, the tyrants, are largely financial, not military. And shooting bankers doesn't sound like a solution to me.