Originally Posted by JCL

I am saying focus on the statistics for violent acts that included firearms, and don't warp the numbers by including acts that didn't, at least in relation to a discussion about gun violence. We would be able to better determine correlations then. Not clear on your bureau comment. There is no bureau. There is an institute, though. Those just aren't their numbers.



Disagree. I posted earlier in this thread on that exact point. I won't repeat it.



I am against gun violence. Guns are inanimate objects, I don't hate them or love them. I don't think much of gun culture. Not sure why there is apparent shame or blame in any of that. Don't understand your reference to a socialism. You know nothing about my politics. Socialism is a long way off, though.



You are entitled to your opinions. I don't know why you would ascribe disdain to your constitution to others here, maybe you don't mean me. The constitution talks about well-regulated in talking about the reasons for an armed society, so I don't personally see the conflict, but that is up to your country. I don't get a vote. But why is Modern Society capitalized?

I think if guns are going to be used to fight 'tyranny' then the challenge is that the oppression of society, the tyrants, are largely financial, not military. And shooting bankers doesn't sound like a solution to me.