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Old 03-14-2014, 12:59 AM
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Originally Posted by upallnight View Post
Seems to me that you are the one with the attitude.
Well it *would* seem that way if you were trying hard not to answer a tough question.

You still haven't answered:
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It's a little strange to me that YOUR ownership of other makes is supposed to be meaningful to me and the members here, but then you suggest that my ownership of other makes isn't supposed to meaningful to the same group. That doesn't seem fair.
Well, does it seem fair? Is it what you meant? Was that a typo as well?
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My ownership of other car means I am not prejudice to the BMW Marque. So why is your ownership of Mazdas any concern to me or this forum.
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You're not getting out of that by deflecting with a typo. But I do have other questions:


How do you feel the community is served by yours or anyone's unsolicited, negative opinion and energy about your poor experiences? Do you really think that they belong within a large group of people who gather together to help one another have a MORE positive experience? Could they still be offered but in a more friendly, less foreboding, perhaps even more *positive* way? Is that just too much effort? That's why we're here after all. It's why MOST of us are, anyway. Unless... Well, unless it's not.

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edited to remove some of that negativity *I* was bringing here.
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Here's some other thoughts:

Is it possible that what started out for you as a labor of love- posting, helping, even being friendly to folks with troubles as you delivered the tough messages- Is it possible that it's become just a labor for you? Do you feel that people are siphoning off your experience with little or no appreciation for what it took for you to gain it? Is that at the core of this newly negative 'welcome to the suck' from you? "Oh great. A new poster. Soon enough I'll be carrying his troubles too."

Well, maybe that's not it. Maybe it is. But at least offer some thought to the hesitation with which you once offered newbies advice on owning a used BMW. Remember how helpful and welcoming you once were. It wasn't fake (was it?). No, of course not. You were clearly happy to help. You granted the benefit of the doubt. People stuck around bc you actually helped. You did that.

I think you can do it again in just the same way. I hope you can. For the hope within those of us who hope to spend at least some of our retirement passing time on media like this. I think that the older these cars get and the younger the owners are, the more we need to help them make good on their experience. If not with an E53, at least with the forum. No one walks in a room for the first time and expects a slap in the face. Extend your hand. Welcome them. It's the very least we can do as a community.
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