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Catastophic Drivetrain Failure
Park didn't even hold the car on the slope -- I had to engage the parking brake. The only thing I noticed before this happened was twice the morning of the failure, when I put the car in reverse, I felt a clunking sound once the car started moving, as though I had run over something. I even got out of the car to see what it was -- and there was nothing there. I have absolutely no warning lights at all, and no leaks underneath the car which makes me wonder if it is a transmission problem -- usually when the tranny goes, there are warning lights and you can get home in limp mode, right? Having my car towed to the mechanic on Monday. He says it is likely either the tranny or the transfer case. If it is the tranny, he recommends finding a good used one, but I'd like opinions on that -- the youngest of these cars is about 8 years old and I'd rather fix it right and not have to face this issue again in 30-50k miles (if the typical trans is good for 100-150k). FWIW I have been changing the tranny fluid and the differential fluids every 30-40k, hoping this would extend the life indefinitely..... Thanks for any thoughts on this matter.
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Mark 2001 3.0 Original Owner, still going 2012 E70 xDrive 35i Pre-Owned -- sold because no one could figure out the transmission problem |
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I know that bridge.
How many miles on the tranny,did look under the vehicle to see if any thing came lose like a bolt of UV ?
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I bet the transfer case splines stripped the driveshaft.
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Ricky Bobby -- looked at other threads about that and it seems like that fits the symptoms.
I spoke to another mechanic who said that it could also be the link fork -- don't know what that is. Guess I'll look it up. The trans is GM and original to the car. Nothing visible underneath.
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Mark 2001 3.0 Original Owner, still going 2012 E70 xDrive 35i Pre-Owned -- sold because no one could figure out the transmission problem |
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error message???
ref "trans.failsafe.prog" for my woes' new tranny $6200 + est parts, labor, tax will put you back at least $8000. For me it was the transfer case, so I'm getting away "cheap??" at $4400.
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What happens to these when a CSB or a guibo/flex disk dies? On the 3's and 5's I'm familiar with... that can be pretty catastrophic.
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2005 X5 4.4i Build 04/05 Maintenance/Build Log Nav, Pano, Sport (Purchased 06/14 w/ 109,000 miles) (Sold 8/15 w/121,000 miles) 2006 X5 4.8is Build 11/05 Maintenance/Build Log Nav, DSP, Pano, Running Boards, OEM Tow Hitch, Cold Weather Pckg (Purchased 08/15 w/ 90,500 miles) 2010 X5 35d Build 02/10 Nav, HiFi, 6 DVD, Sports Pckg, Cold Weather Pckg, HUD, CAS, Running Boards, Leather Dash, PDC, Pano (Purchased 03/17 w/ 136,120 miles) |
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Splines or tcase chain
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Front driveshaft splines and transfer case - no doubt in my mind at all.\
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Sounds scary!!!
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01' 3.0i E53 (M54) with 164,000 miles ![]() 07' 3.0si E83 (N52) with 134,000 miles ![]() 08' 3.0si E70 (N52) with 91,000 miles
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Update -- it was the driveshaft splines and transfer case.
Getting the car back today. $2850 including a brand-new driveshaft from BMW ($900). The shop pulled the transfer case and rebuilt it there. The car has had a lot of work lately, and it's taken a lot of time, which is more of a hassle than the money. I handed the shop owner the list below of all the unscheduled maintenance I've done (because every time something breaks the mechanic says "Oh, we replace those all the time!") and I wanted to get an idea of what I haven't done yet -- what else is on the "breaks all the time" list -- but he says other than the transmission, I've done pretty much everything so fingers crossed! Non-Routine Service: (in service 4/6/01) 1. 8/17/01 6,657 mi Engine Aux Cooling Fan -- Recall 2. 8/17/01 6,657 mi Thermostat 3. 8/17/01 6,657 mi L Front window regulator 4. 8/17/01 6,657 mi R Cargo Lamp 5. 6/6/02 15,716 mi DME Reprogramming -- Recall 6. 6/6/02 15,716 mi Engine Aux Cooling Fan -- 2nd Recall 7. 6/6/02 15,716 mi Nav Housing Lubed 8. 5/28/03 27,780 mi Front Inner Door Handles 9. 5/28/06 27,780 mi Driver's Door Seal 10. 8/28/03 32,440 mi Driver's Seat Bottom Frame 11. 8/28/03 32,440 mi Nav System Software Overwrite 12. 8/28/03 32,440 mi Rear Washer Jet Hose 13. 9/25/03 33,537 mi Steering Column add'l Rubber Stop added 14. 9/25/03 33,537 mi L Rear Door Sunshade Hangers 15. 9/25/03 33,537 mi Final Stage Unit of Climate Control 16. 1/9/04 37,872 mi R Fog Light & L Turn Signal bulb 17. 10/18/04 46,182 mi Cargo Cover Blind 18. 10/18/04 46,182 mi Instrument Cluster 19. 10/18/04 46,182 mi R Rear Seat Bolster Cover 20. 10/18/04 46,182 mi R A-Pillar Cover 21. 11/10/04 46,916 mi R Headlight Assembly 22. 12/13/04 47,813 mi Center Console Cupholder 23. 1/12/05 49,112 mi Driver's Seat Control Cover 24. 1/12/05 49,112 mi Both Rear Seat Belts 25. 12/12/05 59,515 mi Both Rear Seat Belts 2nd time 26. 12/12/05 59,515 mi R A-Pillar Cover 2nd Time 27. 8/14/06 66,499 mi R Rear Window Regulator 28. 10/8/07 77,785 mi Camshaft Position Sensor 29. 10/8/07 77,785 mi Thermostat 30. 10/8/07 77,785 mi Right Tail Light Assembly 31. 10/8/07 77,785 mi Left Turn Signal Bulb & Socket 32. 10/8/07 77,785 mi Left Outer CV Boot 33. 1/12/08 R Cargo Lamp 2nd time 34. 5/6/08 81,718 mi L Front Window Regulator 35. 5/6/08 81,718 mi L Rear Window Regulator 36. 5/9/08 Clips for Rear Hatch Seal 37. 9/26/08 86,503 mi Engine Aux Fan (3rd one) 38. 10/1/08 86,756 mi R Outer CV Boot 39. 1/16/09 90,040 mi L Front Lwr Control Arm 40. 1/16/09 90,040 mi Power Steering Suction & Pressure Hoses 41. 4/23/09 92,588 mi Replace Oil Hose to Oil Separator 42. 5/05/09 93,000 mi L Front Door Handle Carrier 43. 7/14/09 95,712 mi Oil Separator 44. 8/29/09 97,500 mi LCD replacement MID 45. 8/29/09 97,500 mi License Plate Holder 46. 9/15/09 98,081 mi Coolant Reservoir and Cap 47. 10/12/09 99,122 mi Rear Main Seal 48. 10/12/09 99,122 mi Torque Convertor Seal 49. 10/12/09 99,122 mi Oil Filter Housing Gasket 50. 10/24/09 PDC covering rear bumper 511 282 683 67 51. 1/18/10 New Rear Wiper 52. 4/27/10 104,734 mi L Front Window Regulator (under warranty) 53. 5/28/10 105,966 mi Valve Cover Gasket 54. 9/14/10 109,352 mi Both Rear Upper Control Arms 55. 9/21/10 109,662 mi L outer CV boot 2nd time 56. 2/1/11 113,518 mi L Tail Light Assembly 57. 2/1/11 113,518 mi Alternator bearing/Drive Belt Tensioner 58. 2/11/11 113,518 mi Hood Shocks 59. 7/8/11 118,500 mi Final Stage Resistor (2nd time) 60. 11/30/11 122, 284 mi Secondary air injection valve 61. 3/26/13 134,244 mi Oil Pan Gasket 62. 3/26/13 134,244 mi R Outer CV Boot (2nd time) 63. 3/26/13 134,244 mi L Front ABS wheel sensor 64. 3/28/13 New Hood Emblem 65. 3/29/13 New mats 66. 5/4/13 135,991 mi New Windshield 67. 10/23/13 140,080 mi Alternator Bearing/Drive Belt Tensioner 2nd time 68. 3/11/14 143,745 mi A/C Compressor Bearing/Drive Belt Tensioner 69. 6/2/14 146,308 mi New Front Suspension Install 70. 8/25/14 149,661 mi Hydro-steering Vibration Damper 71. 8/26/14 149,983 mi Inner Manifold Boot 72. 8/26/14 149,983 mi DISA Valve
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Mark 2001 3.0 Original Owner, still going 2012 E70 xDrive 35i Pre-Owned -- sold because no one could figure out the transmission problem |
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