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Rampant Lion 07-05-2013 09:22 PM

Coding in e53 Aus
 
I know there are posts in other forums but thought I'd ask the local guys what their experience with coding has been. I am keen to code a couple things with my e53 2004, mainly key/comfort settings etc...

I see Ninja was formerly in Sydney a offering coding, is there any other members or businesses you guy can recommend?

Alternately I am looking at getting the GT1 and coding software from bmcables.com and using Progman to do this. Anyone have experience with the DIY solutions?

frozenwaffles 07-08-2013 01:04 AM

I can help you with this....
I am near the airport in Sydney.

Rampant Lion 07-08-2013 05:57 AM

Sweet, what kit have you got? What have you done?

frozenwaffles 07-12-2013 06:17 AM

I have INPA, GT1, Progman....
I've recoded my E53, rebuilt my ZCS codes, updated module software via WinKFP....

brian1950 07-17-2013 05:11 AM

cold monitoring
 
Hi Frozen Waffles. I have led angel eyes and want to stop them flickering when I start the car. Can you fix this problem for me, and if so, how much would it cost? Thanks.

frozenwaffles 08-14-2013 08:04 AM

hi brian, do you know what 'feature' is causing the flickering?

brian1950 08-15-2013 12:22 AM

The flickering is caused by cold monitoring. Every time the car is started it cold monitors all lights to check if the bulbs are ok. This is standard, and usually is not noticed, but when LEDs are installed they flicker, where other bulbs are not noticeable. They do not tolerate this flickering for ever, and eventually weaken in brightness or die completely. Cold monitoring can be turned off by coding.

jdd 08-15-2013 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by brian1950 (Post 951785)
They do not tolerate this flickering for ever, and eventually weaken in brightness or die completely.

I’m sorry but this is not correct.
While I can understand some people may want to turn off the lamp check feature when using LED lights, doing it solely to extend the life of the LED’s is a misnomer.
LED’s are not in any way affected by being pulsed, such as the lamp check signal you are referring to.
Pulsing LED’s is actually a very energy efficient way of reducing their brightness and is commonly found is all sorts of applications such as LED clocks, the backlight in your phone/tablet, and even LED TV’s.
While it is true LED’s lose some of their brightness over time (many years), this really only applies to the new super bright ones such as those used in LED floodlights and some of the brighter replacements for household halogen globes.
The key here is that the LED’s that are warm/hot when running will have a diminishing light output over time; manufacturing quality also plays a big part with this too.

brian1950 08-18-2013 03:16 AM

It is a well known fact that LEDs will not tolerate flickering. I have had several sets burn out or go brown in the centre and weaken in brightness after only a few months, so I do know what I am talking about.
I would respectfully suggest you do more research regarding LED bulbs. They do not tolerate cold monitoring, or as you refer to it as lamp check signal.

frozenwaffles 08-18-2013 03:55 AM

either way this is a simple fix :)
We can do this with BMWScan...

jdd 08-18-2013 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brian1950 (Post 952300)
It is a well known fact that LEDs will not tolerate flickering. I have had several sets burn out or go brown in the centre and weaken in brightness after only a few months, so I do know what I am talking about.
I would respectfully suggest you do more research regarding LED bulbs. They do not tolerate cold monitoring, or as you refer to it as lamp check signal.

As an electronic engineer with over 30 years design experience I have used many different types of LED’s in various applications and this is one of the most absurd things I have ever heard of.
There are many reasons why LED’s die but I can assure you pulsing them within their specs is not one of them.

If I get time later today I’m going to have a look at this lamp check signal on my own vehicle with a CRO to see if there’s anything unusual with it.
If it’s a simple 0-12V switched signal, then there is no possible way this would cause premature failures.
If the signal switches from positive to negative there is a possibility this may cause issues if the lamp unit is not designed correctly as it would be momentarily applying reverse polarity voltage to the LED’s which they don’t like. If this is the case, the cause is a design issue with the lamp unit and not the fact that the LED’s are being pulsed.

As an example of pulsed LED’s in an automotive environment; have a look at the brake/tail lights of any high end Audi or VW with LED lights. You will notice there is a bunch of LED’s that are used for both the tail and brake lights. These are pulsed very quickly to reduce their brightness when the tail lights are on without the brake lights, the pulsing stops when the brake lights are on to provide the added brightness for the brake lights. You will probably also find this setup on other Euro cars and from memory the later version of the Prius is setup like this too.

brian1950 08-18-2013 10:15 PM

I'm sorry but you are going off on a tangent and are completely on the wrong subject. I am not going to continue this debate with you as you are obviously convinced you know everything, and i am not willing to continue accepting your rudeness. I do not make absurd statements. You apparently know nothing about BMWs, or cold monitoring of LED Angel lights. End of story!!

brian1950 08-18-2013 10:31 PM

Cold monitoring off for Angel Eyes - KALTUEBERWACHUNG_SL_LV-nicht-activ; KALTUEBERWACHUNG_SL_RV-nicht-activ

Angel eyes still work when turned on but no longer flicker when engine first started.

Unfortunately I do not have the equipment to do this myself, so I Try to remember to turn mine on before starting engine to prevent cold monitoring from occurring

Thanks Frozenwaffles for your replies.

jdd 08-19-2013 03:43 AM

I have checked both the cold and hot monitoring lamp check signals on my own X5, with some interesting results.
For the benefit of those non-believers on this forum I performed this test on the angle eyes circuit, although the results are likely to be the same for a number of other light circuits.

During hot monitoring the bulbs are pulsed once every 80mSec with a clean ‘square wave’ from 12V to zero and back to 12V, this pulse is about 5mSec in duration. The hot monitoring phase starts more or less straight after the cold monitoring phase and is done so that if a bulb fails while you’re out driving around it will bring up a warning on the dash.

During the cold monitoring phase I found both positive and negative pulses.
While the positive going pulses should not cause any issues, the negative going ones are large enough to potentially damage a LED.
As I have mentioned previously, the issue is NOT the fact that the LED’s are pulsed, it is the fact that during the cold monitoring lamp check there are negative pulses generated which LED’s are sensitive to.

A simple solution for those who don’t have the ability to turn this off would be to splice a diode of suitable amperage (eg IN5401 or similar) in series with the angle eye circuit with the grey wire connected to the anode and the cathode connected to the positive side of the LED.


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