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IlliniX5 02-02-2006 01:03 PM

Mic Location
 
I am enjoying my new bt kit from eis. The follow up from Randy has been excellent. The one item I would like to improve is the microphone volume (I already double checked the it is facing the correct direction). Randy suggested I try swapping the microphone and sunroof button locations. Has anyone tried this? Is it as simple as snapping out the mic and sunroof buttons and snapping them back in the opposite locations?

X5Jay 02-02-2006 01:12 PM

I don't think they're swappable in the 04+ face lifted models, but I think they are in the older ones...

bscarlett 02-02-2006 01:13 PM

I'll let you know. I just upgraded my mic to the newer version that improves noise cancellation and when I install it, I plan to swap the position to the sunroof switch. It should be very simple. I'll let you you later tonight.

SuperGreg 02-02-2006 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by bscarlett
I'll let you know. I just upgraded my mic to the newer version that improves noise cancellation and when I install it, I plan to swap the position to the sunroof switch. It should be very simple. I'll let you you later tonight.

Tell me about this "newer" mic that improves noise cancellation. I have not heard of it. Do you have the part number?

bscarlett 02-02-2006 02:30 PM

I posted it here.
http://www.xoutpost.com/bluetooth/746...hlight=mic+ses

IlliniX5 02-02-2006 05:36 PM

Thanks bscarlett let me know how it goes. Has anyone switched the mic and sunroof switch on a pre-04 X5.

SuperGreg 02-02-2006 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by IlliniX5
Thanks bscarlett let me know how it goes. Has anyone switched the mic and sunroof switch on a pre-04 X5.

I have a 2002, I'll try it later

Clem 02-02-2006 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by IlliniX5
Thanks bscarlett let me know how it goes. Has anyone switched the mic and sunroof switch on a pre-04 X5.

If the wiring is anything like my 03 M5 then the harness/wires aren't long enough. AFAIK.

I tried to move the sunroof switch closer to the drivers side but I couldn't get the harness to reach. Maybe I'll try it agaon but I'm pretty sure it's not long enough.

BlueX5guy 02-02-2006 06:18 PM

I also had the low mic volume problem when I installed my b/t module in my 01' X5. I got the new mic and moved it to the sunroof switch location.

The switch opening is slightly larger that the mic openinig, so I had to put a shim on the mic to get it to not rattle. The sunroof switch was a tight fit in the mic opening. It helped a little, but I still get people telling me that I sound "far away". I tried to get Advance Autovations to help solve the problem, but as you have probalby read, they are no help at all. If anyone else has any suggestions, I am all ears.

Dennis

SuperGreg 02-02-2006 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by IlliniX5
Thanks bscarlett let me know how it goes. Has anyone switched the mic and sunroof switch on a pre-04 X5.

Ok, I just tried it, here's the deal. My X is an 11/01 MY2002 btw. The wires ARE indeed long enough, but that is not the issue here. The issue is that the slot/opening for the mic is ever so lightly smaller than the slot/opening for the sunroof switch. So when I popped the mic into the sunroof switch opening, it was loose, and could easily pop out. I suppose one could glue it in place or something like that, but not me.

Here is one other thing I noticed; via an above mentioned thread it mentioned the following 2 mic part #'s:

Old one: 84318380319
New one: 84316938762

Mine is a 84.31-8 380 338 (Neither one of those listed above) :dunno:

We'll, now we know.

SG

SuperGreg 02-02-2006 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueX5guy
I also had the low mic volume problem when I installed my b/t module in my 01' X5. I got the new mic and moved it to the sunroof switch location...
Dennis

Just beat me to it, that confirms it :rofl:

IlliniX5 02-02-2006 06:23 PM

I hear you Blue.. That is the exactly what people tell me that I sound far away.

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Originally Posted by BlueX5guy
I also had the low mic volume problem when I installed my b/t module in my 01' X5. I got the new mic and moved it to the sunroof switch location.

The switch opening is slightly larger that the mic openinig, so I had to put a shim on the mic to get it to not rattle. The sunroof switch was a tight fit in the mic opening. It helped a little, but I still get people telling me that I sound "far away". I tried to get Advance Autovations to help solve the problem, but as you have probalby read, they are no help at all. If anyone else has any suggestions, I am all ears.

Dennis


IlliniX5 02-02-2006 06:49 PM

SG-- Thanks for trying this out and letting us know

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperGreg
Ok, I just tried it, here's the deal. My X is an 11/01 MY2002 btw. The wires ARE indeed long enough, but that is not the issue here. The issue is that the slot/opening for the mic is ever so lightly smaller than the slot/opening for the sunroof switch. So when I popped the mic into the sunroof switch opening, it was loose, and could easily pop out. I suppose one could glue it in place or something like that, but not me.

Here is one other thing I noticed; via an above mentioned thread it mentioned the following 2 mic part #'s:

Old one: 84318380319
New one: 84316938762

Mine is a 84.31-8 380 338 (Neither one of those listed above) :dunno:

We'll, now we know.

SG


SuperGreg 02-02-2006 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by IlliniX5
SG-- Thanks for trying this out and letting us know

You are welcome

benathon 02-03-2006 01:20 AM

How do you guys pop out the switches?

Does the newer mic help? Can I add more then one mic?

BlueX5guy 02-03-2006 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by benathon
How do you guys pop out the switches?

Does the newer mic help? Can I add more then one mic?

You can only hook up one mic.

There are pretty good instructions on mic replacement in the "X5 Series (E53) Adv. Autovations Installation Manual (PDF)" here: http://www.advancedautovations.com/manuals/

Good luck
Dennis

benathon 02-03-2006 02:20 AM

Thanks, good link.

Did you upgrade the mic? Notice any improvement?

SuperGreg 02-03-2006 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by benathon
Thanks, good link.

Did you upgrade the mic? Notice any improvement?

I just ordered a new one, I'll report the results next week.

bscarlett 02-03-2006 11:03 AM

OK, the new mic is in and the position has been switched with the sunroof switch. I can confirm that the 2005 sunroof switch is slightly longer, by 1 mm. All I did was place some doubleface tape under the retaining clip for the mic and that snugged it up. The new mic sounds much better. I have the old mic in my 530 but I gues the larger cabin size of the X5 allows for more backround noise.

benathon 02-03-2006 11:22 AM

Any prices on this new mic?

bscarlett 02-03-2006 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by benathon
Any prices on this new mic?


I paid 96 CDN with a 15% discount, but CDN prices are almost double the prices of US.

SuperGreg 02-03-2006 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by benathon
Any prices on this new mic?

I think the "list" price is ~$70.00

Randy@EIS 02-03-2006 01:53 PM

One way to ensure you have the latest mic is to look at the color of the back. If its green it is the latest. I will also say that MANY MANY people have the older mics and find that they work fine. Ive tried a couple versions and the difference in gain isn't all that much. The list price is about 60-70USD and if you buy an OEM retrofit kit you should get one of these - if you don't you are being short changed. Now, you can choose to keep your own mic if its from say 2000 and newer and you will probably be happy (most folks anyway), but the older vehicles really should have the mic replaced.

benathon 02-03-2006 04:54 PM

Do people still say you sound far away and low?

bscarlett 02-03-2006 04:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy@EIS
One way to ensure you have the latest mic is to look at the color of the back. If its green it is the latest. I will also say that MANY MANY people have the older mics and find that they work fine. Ive tried a couple versions and the difference in gain isn't all that much. The list price is about 60-70USD and if you buy an OEM retrofit kit you should get one of these - if you don't you are being short changed. Now, you can choose to keep your own mic if its from say 2000 and newer and you will probably be happy (most folks anyway), but the older vehicles really should have the mic replaced.

Well the two mics I have 84316938762 is the latest model and is black on the back, the one that I removed is 84318380319 and is green on the back so I would not say that the back being green is definative.

SuperGreg 02-03-2006 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bscarlett
Well the two mics I have 84316938762 is the latest model and is black on the back, the one that I removed is 84318380319 and is green on the back so I would not say that the back being green is definative.

:iagree: since the "762" is indeed the latest model

SuperGreg 02-07-2006 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperGreg
I just ordered a new one, I'll report the results next week.

I just received and installed the new "762" mic. All I did to test, was to make a call to my answering machine at home leaving a message with the old mic, and then the new one. I can say that the new mic is clearer and does a better job than my old mic part # 84318380338 at diminishing background noise. It's not light years ahead, but it is indeed clearer. Note to benathon, in neither test did I sound "far away".

benathon 02-07-2006 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SuperGreg
I just received and installed the new "762" mic. All I did to test, was to make a call to my answering machine at home leaving a message with the old mic, and then the new one. I can say that the new mic is clearer and does a better job than my old mic part # 84318380338 at diminishing background noise. It's not light years ahead, but it is indeed clearer. Note to benathon, in neither test did I sound "far away".

Good to talk to you again, thanks for helping me out again today.


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