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cjett 03-05-2005 03:05 PM

Bluetooth problem in 2003 X5 resolved
 
I just resolved my problem with my 2003 x5 that had a CPT-8000 phone originally installed, and thought others could use the info. Seems the wiring on these is quite a bit different then what the pairing cradle and ULF is expecting. Basically, it would not charge nor enter pairing mode.

So, on the pairing cradle side of the connector, you should have 4 wires. Move these four wires to the following pin locations within the connector.
Brown - Pin 2
White - Pin 7
Green - Pin 9
Red - Pin 10

Hope this helps those that have had problems with similar setups.

Chris F. 03-05-2005 04:56 PM

Oh man, I'm not even sure I want to attempt Bluetooth in my '01....sounds like its a mess....

UCrewX5 03-05-2005 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris F.
Oh man, I'm not even sure I want to attempt Bluetooth in my '01....sounds like its a mess....

Chris, I did the retrofit using the AdvancedAutovations kit and it was plug-n-play. The only challenge was having to remove the console to extend the wiring up to the armrest. If you previously had the CPT7000 or CPT8000 phone systems installed, the wiring will already have been extended.

Go for it!! :thumbup:

rangerfan 03-05-2005 07:02 PM

Moving the wires from one pin to another. OK, what's involved in that? Is it simple enough to pull it out and push it back into another pin? Finally, how do I know the numbers of each of the pin locations on the connector? Is it stamped onto the plastic?

Will hit the garage once the kids are asleep. :thumbup:

UCrewX5 03-05-2005 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rangerfan
Moving the wires from one pin to another. OK, what's involved in that? Is it simple enough to pull it out and push it back into another pin? Finally, how do I know the numbers of each of the pin locations on the connector? Is it stamped onto the plastic?

Will hit the garage once the kids are asleep. :thumbup:

Before you start removing pins, use your multi-meter to check if you have voltage across the pins identified above.

As for removing pins, there's a trick to it but it's not that difficult to figure it out. See page 21 on this document for some examples - http://www.tvonnav.com/manuals/TVonN...anual%20v4.pdf

The numbers for the pins is stamped in the plastic (get out the magnifying glasses :wow: )

Good luck!!

rangerfan 03-05-2005 07:58 PM

Hang on a second. Before I rip out the pins, I want to make sure it is necessary. The post at the top mentions that the phone would not charge, but it also would not pair. I have never had a problem pairing the phone. But I guess that could be due to the other (blue) wire. Guess I'll move the pins around and give it a shot.

cjett 03-05-2005 09:26 PM

Pretty simple. You'll see the numbers printed on the connector. if you look at the side of the connector you'll see a silver tab. Use a small screwdriver and press that in while gently pulling the wire, it will pull right out.

regarding the not charging. Check the ground - Brown wire. My guess is that it is connected to a blank on the other connector. If you are pairing fine then leave the green and white wires alone. Red is power, and brown is ground - these are the only two you'll need to mess with. Also, on the car side of the connector, pull the cover off and see what you are connecting to.

Good luck.

jett

rangerfan 03-06-2005 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by cjett
Pretty simple. You'll see the numbers printed on the connector. if you look at the side of the connector you'll see a silver tab. Use a small screwdriver and press that in while gently pulling the wire, it will pull right out.

regarding the not charging. Check the ground - Brown wire. My guess is that it is connected to a blank on the other connector. If you are pairing fine then leave the green and white wires alone. Red is power, and brown is ground - these are the only two you'll need to mess with. Also, on the car side of the connector, pull the cover off and see what you are connecting to.

Good luck.

jett

Thanks. Got the pins out with ease and tried the setup mentioned above, but it still didn't work. I guess I'll mess around with it for a while trying some different combos with red and brown.

UCrewX5 03-06-2005 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by rangerfan
Thanks. Got the pins out with ease and tried the setup mentioned above, but it still didn't work. I guess I'll mess around with it for a while trying some different combos with red and brown.

Are you getting 12V from the vehicle?

rangerfan 03-06-2005 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by UCrewX5
Are you getting 12V from the vehicle?

I am getting power on pins 2 and 5. Of course, the multimeter leads are a bit too big for the small pin holes, so I had to use a couple of small paper clips. There is definitely power.

It is probably a bad snap in adapter.

cjett 03-07-2005 10:20 AM

Stupid question... but just to be sure, are either pins 2 or 5 connected to the charger side pin that is connected to the red wire? If not, move the charger side pin around to the right spot. Again, red to either 2 or 5 and brown to brown should get you charging. I'd doubt that it's a bad charger, not much there to go wrong.
good luck,
cjett

rangerfan 03-07-2005 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by cjett
Stupid question... but just to be sure, are either pins 2 or 5 connected to the charger side pin that is connected to the red wire? If not, move the charger side pin around to the right spot. Again, red to either 2 or 5 and brown to brown should get you charging. I'd doubt that it's a bad charger, not much there to go wrong.
good luck,
cjett

I'm not really sure what you are saying. What is "the charger side pin that is connected to the red wire"?

The eject box is wired like this:

Pin 1 Green
Pin 2 Brown
Pin 5 Red
Pin 13 White

Using the multimeter I can confirm that I get power at Pin 5 w/ Pin 2 ground.

*sigh* :dunno:

UCrewX5 03-07-2005 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rangerfan
I'm not really sure what you are saying. What is "the charger side pin that is connected to the red wire"?

The eject box is wired like this:

Pin 1 Green
Pin 2 Brown
Pin 5 Red
Pin 13 White

Using the multimeter I can confirm that I get power at Pin 5 w/ Pin 2 ground.

*sigh* :dunno:

It's definately possible that you received a defective eject box

IFlyX5 03-07-2005 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rangerfan
I'm not really sure what you are saying. What is "the charger side pin that is connected to the red wire"?

The eject box is wired like this:

Pin 1 Green
Pin 2 Brown
Pin 5 Red
Pin 13 White

Using the multimeter I can confirm that I get power at Pin 5 w/ Pin 2 ground.

*sigh* :dunno:

What is the chance of knowing an X5 owner with Bluetooth setup who lives near you so you can test his snap-in in your X5? Rangerfan, I'll be more than happy to send you my SE T616 phone and snap-in adapter for you to test your wiring setup. Let me know.

rangerfan 03-07-2005 12:17 PM

Thanks Peter. I'll try some other options before putting you through the trouble. The fact that I'm not the only one with the problem leads me to believe it's not a problem on my end, so to speak.

Hey Todd, do you still have your V600 and the snap in?

cjett 03-07-2005 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rangerfan
I'm not really sure what you are saying. What is "the charger side pin that is connected to the red wire"?

The eject box is wired like this:

Pin 1 Green
Pin 2 Brown
Pin 5 Red
Pin 13 White

Using the multimeter I can confirm that I get power at Pin 5 w/ Pin 2 ground.

*sigh* :dunno:

There are two connectors that you are putting together, right? One that came in the car (the car side), and one that you are adding with the eject box (the charger, OR eject box side). The pins on the eject box side need to line up with the appropriate pin receptacles on the car side.

So, you said you are pairing fine, in which case don't touch the green or white wires. That leaves you with brown and red. Brown is easy, attach it to ANY pin receptacle on the car side that is also brown - there should be two... just pick one, and move the pins on the eject box side to line up with it.

Regarding the red wire on the eject box side.... Check the pin receptacles on the car side and find 12 volts... you should find at least 1. Again, line up the pin on the eject box side to line up with the appropriate pin receptacle on the car side.

cjett


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