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neiloakley 01-18-2010 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 702491)
1. Determine exactly what type phone you have now, as per WDS

But Range Rover aren't listed, do i have to keep looking at different ones on WDS until i find one with matching wiring?

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Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 702491)
3. Adapt wiring of telephone connector (if necessary) to suit TCU

No Problems

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Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 702491)
4. Connect TCU and code as required.

What coding options are there other than enabling VR? And if i enable VR on the TCU and keep the existing VR SES module will it get confused when i use the VR button?

KiwiJochen 01-18-2010 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by neiloakley (Post 702521)
But Range Rover aren't listed, do i have to keep looking at different ones on WDS until i find one with matching wiring?

A Range Rover is an X5 in a different skin
Look at the X5 phones.

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Originally Posted by neiloakley (Post 702521)
What coding options are there other than enabling VR? And if i enable VR on the TCU and keep the existing VR SES module will it get confused when i use the VR button?

Yes, 2 x VR will be confusing!!

Other options:
VIN
Speed dependent volume
Assist functions
GPS dead reckoning adjustment for Assist
Bluetooth on/off
Change Bluetooth name
Change Bluetooth passkey
And more.... but the rest are not so interesting...

neiloakley 01-18-2010 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 702540)
Yes, 2 x VR will be confusing!!

So i can disable VR on TCU (i dont care about not dialing using VR)

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Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 702540)
Other options:
VIN
Speed dependent volume
Assist functions
GPS dead reckoning adjustment for Assist
Bluetooth on/off
Change Bluetooth name
Change Bluetooth passkey
And more.... but the rest are not so interesting...

Can these all be done with NavCoder?

KiwiJochen 01-18-2010 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by neiloakley (Post 702547)
So i can disable VR on TCU (i dont care about not dialing using VR)



Can these all be done with NavCoder?

Yes, disable VR on TCU

NavCoder can set all TCU options - some are in beta test right now but all looks good
Most people don't use Assist so I didn't bother making the Assist options visible...

neiloakley 01-19-2010 06:41 AM

Great - everything is a lot clearer now.

One last thing thought. What types of telephone module are there?

Obviously there is the ULF module, and the TCU module i need to fit (with bluetooth), but what other ones are there?

I'm assuming my car doesn't have bluetooth, because it has a slot to put a sim card in. But could it be a case of removing the eject box and adding a bluetooth antenna?

I'll have time tonight to try and finde the telephone module in my range rover (in the boot maybe) but i think it will only have Land Rover part number on it

KiwiJochen 01-19-2010 07:13 AM

Well there's the Siemens fixed unit, the Siemens cordless phone, around 2 or 3 variants of that
Plus Motorola, around 10 variants

In all there's around 15 or so different phone types for the BMW.

Depends on vehicle, age, country, system...

neiloakley 01-19-2010 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KiwiJochen (Post 702734)
Well there's the Siemens fixed unit, the Siemens cordless phone, around 2 or 3 variants of that
Plus Motorola, around 10 variants

In all there's around 15 or so different phone types for the BMW.

Depends on vehicle, age, country, system...

Nothing is ever easy it is hahaha.

Well had a quick look at WDS, and i have the cordless type, and it's a 2003 Range rover so my money is on the highlighted one in the pic, but i will take out the telephone module tonight and compare wiring colours/pin locations on the module.

Douglas 01-19-2010 12:00 PM

Neil, I've been working on preciciely the same conversion. Bimmernav sells a kit to do exactly what we want using original parts but it's pricey. A couple of smart guys like us can certaintly figure it out. So I got a UTF to try but when I plug it into the factory plug it freezes the satnav etc. I have heard that the Range Rover and X5 use slightly diferent pinouts although the same conector. I have downloaded teh pinout for the x5 but haven't found it for the RR so am hoping the colours are for the same components... that's as far as I have gotten.

- D

neiloakley 01-19-2010 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Douglas (Post 702786)
Neil, I've been working on preciciely the same conversion. Bimmernav sells a kit to do exactly what we want using original parts but it's pricey. A couple of smart guys like us can certaintly figure it out. So I got a UTF to try but when I plug it into the factory plug it freezes the satnav etc. I have heard that the Range Rover and X5 use slightly diferent pinouts although the same conector. I have downloaded teh pinout for the x5 but haven't found it for the RR so am hoping the colours are for the same components... that's as far as I have gotten.

- D

UTF???

And what connector did you look at? I'll be taking my phone module out the range rover tonight, so will happily share pin outs on the connector that plugs into the module.

Is the telephone module in the boot in the rangie?

KiwiJochen 01-19-2010 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Douglas (Post 702786)
Neil, I've been working on preciciely the same conversion. Bimmernav sells a kit to do exactly what we want using original parts but it's pricey. A couple of smart guys like us can certaintly figure it out. So I got a UTF to try but when I plug it into the factory plug it freezes the satnav etc. I have heard that the Range Rover and X5 use slightly diferent pinouts although the same conector. I have downloaded teh pinout for the x5 but haven't found it for the RR so am hoping the colours are for the same components... that's as far as I have gotten.

- D

Well it is quite straightforward, change the pinout from the old phone to what the ULF needs.

You'll have some wires left over, and you'll need to add a couple, but it's pretty easy.

I helped a guy in the Middle East do it last week.

Jochen


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