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Notlek 01-01-2006 04:10 PM

Need Help with EIS bluetooth install
 
Hi:
I am trying to install the EIS bluetooth kit in my 2004 X5 with DSP, no NAV. I had Assist and removed the module, installed the EIS module, inserted the 54 pin plug and the other white fakra. The system will power on but I never get to the point where it says bluetooth pairing.

I thought that I had the bluetooth antenna on the top of the bracket. It is about 2" square by 1/4" thick. There were two other wires connected to the Assist module and I do not know what to do with these. I was told that they connect together, but they are both the same.

Can anyone offer me advice?

Thanks

Randy@EIS 01-01-2006 05:33 PM

I'll try to help...
 
Hi - I can't tell by your user name who you are so i can't tell which kit you purchased. I will be happy to help - did you get the unit with the center console eject box? If so, when the ignition is on, do you see the red led come on on your MID? If so, when the radio is playing, what happens if you press and hold the button on that eject box that you would have just installed. I am assuming that you have tried this button per the directions???
A little more info as to what proceedure you are following and what you are seeing/hearing would help.

Randy@EIS 01-01-2006 05:34 PM

One more thing...
 
also, you needn't do anything with the other wires from the assist module disconnection and it will not have any impact on your current situation.

Notlek 01-01-2006 07:03 PM

Hi Randy:
I am the one you shipped the unit to to arrive on Friday, it was sent overnight - Thanks for that!
I did not install the eject box in the console. I am using a Razr V3 on Cingular and was told that I do not need to install that part!
I am getting a red light on the MID.
I can access the voice recognition by pressing the button on the steering wheel with the face on it. On the dash, the screen tells me to Activate Phone.
Let me know what you need to know. Is it possible that the little 2" square box on the top of the rack is not a bluetooth antenna? It has a purple and black connection and I am not sure where the other end of the white connection goes, the one that is plugged into the module.
Ted

UCrewX5 01-01-2006 07:08 PM

You need the pairing button in order to pair the phone. I'm pretty sure you are going to have to install the eject box, as that has the pairing button in it. The steering wheel button will not initiate the pairing on a Visteon module (which is what I assume you have).

Notlek 01-01-2006 08:25 PM

I will try that - so much for shortcuts!
Do you know if I have to disconnect the battery again to install the eject box?

UCrewX5 01-01-2006 08:31 PM

I didn't disconnect the battery when I installed my kit, but use your own judgement.

SuperGreg 01-01-2006 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCrewX5
You need the pairing button in order to pair the phone. I'm pretty sure you are going to have to install the eject box, as that has the pairing button in it. The steering wheel button will not initiate the pairing on a Visteon module (which is what I assume you have).

Yup, that sounds like the problem. I will also have to assume that he is setting his phone to search for BT devices :dunno:

Notlek 01-01-2006 11:24 PM

Thanks Guys!

I did have to install the eject tray. Now, everything works great!

Thanks!

SuperGreg 01-02-2006 07:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Notlek
Thanks Guys!

I did have to install the eject tray. Now, everything works great!

Thanks!

Awesome!!!! Now give us the details on EIS.
What did you pay?
What did the kit come with?
How detailed/useful were their instructions?

Their customer service/follow up is obviously top notch :thumbup:

Notlek 01-02-2006 07:30 PM

I paid $571.00 for the kit, but that included overnight shipping, I was in a hurry to get it installed on the weekend.
The kit included the module, the eject tray, bracket, various screw, wire ties, etc. The instructions were excellent. I had no problem with the install at all. The biggest problem was disconnecting the battery, always a pain removing the spare tire, and removing the oddment tray. Other than that, it was a breeze!
I have to say that both Randy and Calvin were great to deal with. Randy told me that if I ran into problems to give him a call or e-mail and he would help me out.
I did try to avoid installing the eject box because someone told me that I did not have to since I was using a bluetooth phone. Once I installed that everything worked great. Thanks to UCrewX5 for that information.

Definitely recommend them!

UCrewX5 01-02-2006 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Notlek
I did try to avoid installing the eject box because someone told me that I did not have to since I was using a bluetooth phone. Once I installed that everything worked great. Thanks to UCrewX5 for that information.

Definitely recommend them!

Glad to hear that everything worked out and that Randy and company came through for you!

Regarding the pricing, I would assume that kits for X5 owners of prior years could be a bit higher because they would require the additional custom harnesses that you did not. Yours being a 2004, it was pre-wired for everything and the control unit was basically a direct swap of your Assist module for the BT module.

Enjoy Bluetooth, it rocks!!

SuperGreg 01-02-2006 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Notlek
I paid $571.00 for the kit, but that included overnight shipping, I was in a hurry to get it installed on the weekend. them!

Awesome, that's great news. I don't think you needed to disconnect the battery. I didn't when I did mine.

benathon 01-12-2006 03:11 AM

Got any pics of the pairing button and eject box?

benathon 01-14-2006 02:50 AM

Can someone please take a picture of the eject box for me? I am planning on doing this because my 10/03 build 04 only has Assist.

Randy@EIS 01-14-2006 07:59 AM

Here is a link to a picture of the eject box and SIA in a 540 on our website - same part as would be for your X5.

http://eiskits.com/photogallery/imag...T610%20SIA.JPG

SuperGreg 01-14-2006 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benathon
Can someone please take a picture of the eject box for me? I am planning on doing this because my 10/03 build 04 only has Assist.

Let me know if you want a pic of my MOTO E815 setup in my X5. If you do, I will take one a.s.a.p. for you.

benathon 01-14-2006 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy@EIS
Here is a link to a picture of the eject box and SIA in a 540 on our website - same part as would be for your X5.

http://eiskits.com/photogallery/imag...T610%20SIA.JPG

What if my phone doesn't have a snap in adapter fo it? I have a SE K750. What are the parts I need? Price? I have a 10/03 build. I know I would lose Assist right? How do I check for antenna? Thanks.

SuperGreg 01-14-2006 03:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benathon
What if my phone doesn't have a snap in adapter fo it? I have a SE K750. What are the parts I need? Price? I have a 10/03 build. I know I would lose Assist right? How do I check for antenna? Thanks.

If no snap in avail.,and it doesn't look like their is one for that phone, then you can still have fully functional BT, you just can't use the cars charger or antenna.

Greg

benathon 01-15-2006 12:40 PM

Hey Greg, I looked for it but don't know what I'm really looking for besides the wording. Can you take a picture of this when you have a chance? And what else do I need to look for?

SuperGreg 01-15-2006 03:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benathon
Hey Greg, I looked for it but don't know what I'm really looking for besides the wording. Can you take a picture of this when you have a chance? And what else do I need to look for?

I was incorrect about those buttons, my old 328 had those, my X does not, sorry. What you really need to look for is the 25 pin connector that looks like the connector on a serial cable. This will be present if your X is pre-wired for the OEM phone. I can't dig up a pic right now because the BT section is not up yet. Does that make sense? Any more questions about it?

benathon 01-17-2006 01:48 AM

Where should I look for this 25 pin at?

Randy@EIS 01-17-2006 06:44 AM

If you have an 04 - like in your sig you won't have a 25pin connector. I am not sure what you are trying to find but in the back behind that door/flap on the drivers side you will have a 54pin connector with a white lever on it, plus a blue 26pin connector with a plug on it with loops of wires sticking out.

SuperGreg 01-17-2006 07:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randy@EIS
If you have an 04 - like in your sig you won't have a 25pin connector. I am not sure what you are trying to find but in the back behind that door/flap on the drivers side you will have a 54pin connector with a white lever on it, plus a blue 26pin connector with a plug on it with loops of wires sticking out.

Randy is right, I wasn't even paying attention to your sig to see the year. The BT section is back up, go to article #14.

benathon 01-23-2006 10:59 AM

So all I need is TCU and the eject box? Do I need an extra antenna?

SuperGreg 01-23-2006 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benathon
So all I need is TCU and the eject box? Do I need an extra antenna?

You already have the antenna since you have BMW assist. If you have not already, please read article #14 here: LINK. The kit should also come with the small square BT antenna that mounts on top of the component rack as well. Randy @ EIS may be able to help you with any further questions. He is a preferred vendor here. Just send him a note. His customer service is top notch.

benathon 01-24-2006 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Notlek
inserted the 54 pin plug and the other white fakra.

Thanks

Is this the plug? for a 10/03 build 2004?

UCrewX5 01-24-2006 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benathon
Is this the plug? for a 10/03 build 2004?

No, that's the SES plug where you would connect a voice recognition module. :tsk:

benathon 01-24-2006 08:33 PM

I don't have any other plugs in that area. Is it connected to the ULF module?

UCrewX5 01-24-2006 08:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benathon
I don't have any other plugs in that area. Is it connected to the ULF module?

The 2004 doesn't have the 25 pin connector. The connector you are looking for is already connected to your Assist module. In order to install Bluetooth you will need to disconnect the Assist module and plug the BT module in its place.

benathon 01-24-2006 08:46 PM

Thanks, that's all I needed to know.

benathon 01-24-2006 08:47 PM

Do you know where some instructions for install to the eject box are? I can't find any. I'm trying to make sure I can do this mod.

UCrewX5 01-24-2006 08:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by benathon
Do you know where some instructions for install to the eject box are? I can't find any. I'm trying to make sure I can do this mod.

To install mine I had to remove the center console - http://www.xoutpost.com/showthread.php?t=9450

Yours is likely going to be more like this - http://www.xoutpost.com/showthread.php?t=9446

SuperGreg 01-24-2006 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCrewX5
The 2004 doesn't have the 25 pin connector. The connector you are looking for is already connected to your Assist module. In order to install Bluetooth you will need to disconnect the Assist module and plug the BT module in its place.

:withstupi


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