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I sent the cluster to VDO Repair for diagnosis. I've spoken to the tech several times about it since, and as of now (3 weeks later) they still have it. The basic problem is that someone attempted a repair in the past by swapping the main control board and transferring the primary CPU to the new board. But in doing so, damaged the chip. Also, the replacement control board is lacking the connector for the variable redline - which is why that feature doesn't work. The plan now is to replace the CPU chip with a new one, code the VIN and set the mileage to "0". He didn't have the software tools on hand to properly code the chip, so he ordered what he needs and that's the reason why it's taking so long. Since I wasn't sure what to expect when I sent in my cluster, I thought it might be a good idea to have a backup plan. I found a really nice used 4.6is cluster on eBay, bought it, and sent it to VDO Repair along with my original cluster. The idea being that if mine can't repaired, I could recode the new one and use that instead. But since my original CPU is damaged, that plan won't get me going any sooner since we still need the programming tools. Maybe I would have been better off just buying a new cluster from BMW? Since the X5 isn’t going anywhere for a while, I decided to get it caught up on some urgent and remedial maintenance. Urgent Maintenance #1: One of the outer CV boots was torn, so I replaced that. I removed and cleaned the CV joint, and since it’s still in great condition, I only replaced the boot. Having plenty of time, I did it the hard way by removing the entire steering knuckle. This is a lot of extra work, but it does greatly improve access to the CV joint. It also made it possible to completely clean off all the old grease that was flung out of the torn boot. Urgent Maintenance #2: Oil was leaking from the Bank 1 valve cover and Bank 2 upper timing cover gaskets. I debating going ahead and having the valve covers powder coated while I had it apart, but decided to wait on that until the next time I have to take it apart. It was also due for an oil change, and I wanted to check on the condition of the timing chain guides. So after draining the oil, I removed the oil pan to check for any broken pieces of the chain guides. Thankfully, there was no evidence of deteriorating guides. With the upper timing covers off, I could see about half of the guides and also visually inspected them. Again, no evidence of failures (yet). So I buttoned it back up with new upper timing cover and valve cover gaskets on both banks, new VANOS solenoid gaskets, a new thermostat, and a new A/C compressor belt. Remedial Maintenance #1: With that done, and having had to drain most of the coolant anyway, I figured it was a good time to flush the coolant. The old stuff has been drained out and I filled it with distilled water for the time being until I can run the engine enough to thoroughly circulate the coolant and flush out all the old coolant. Remedial Maintenance #2: I wasn’t planning to change the drivetrain fluids yet (diffs, transfer case) but the big aluminum skid plate has to be removed to drain and fill the front diff. It was already off to get to the oil pan, so I figured what the hell, and took care of that too. I’ve also thoroughly cleaned everything that was removed, or that I could get access to with other bits removed. So as of now, it’s all put back together and ready to go except for finishing bleeding the coolant and the instrument cluster repair.
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2002 X5 4.6is - Imola Red/Black (Sold) 2001 740i M Sport - Anthrazit Metallic/Black (Sold) 1998 M3/4/5 - Technoviolet/Dove (Sold) 2003 Z4 3.0i Sport - Sterlinggrau Metallic/Black (Sold) 2009 Mini JCW (The Wife's) 2015 i3 REx - Arravani Gray/Tera World (Daily Driver) |
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^Good news on the "remedial maintenance" while waiting for cluster to be repaired. Time will tell if VDO Repair is going to be a cheaper route than going to BMW. If I recall correctly a new 4.6/4.8 cluster plus programming from BMW runs about a grand.
If you make out cheaper than that it would be a good save. However, obviously if you needed the car right away and couldnt take any downtime, you would have to pony up the cash to BMW.
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2018 Ram 2500 6.7L Cummins 68RFE 19k miles -Bright White/Black - Big Horn Sport - Crew Cab Short Bed 2013 X5 35D (CEO's) - Born on 5/17/2013 - 82k miles - Alpine White/Cinnamon Brown/Premium Pkg, Sport Activity/Premium Pkg and Sound/20" Style 214/Running Boards |
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Yeah, it's a good thing that I'm able to let the car sit for nearly a month while I wait for the cluster repair. It's frustrating, but at least I'm not stranded or significantly inconvenienced by it.
I have a feeling that it will end up being a wash cost-wise by the time all the checks have cleared the banks. I'm adding to the expense by also having the replacement cluster "rebuilt" along with the original in case I need it. If I don't need it, I can try to sell it and recover some of the money spent. How much would you reckon a cluster from a 2003 4.6is with freshly rebuilt LCD panels and 0 miles would fetch?
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2002 X5 4.6is - Imola Red/Black (Sold) 2001 740i M Sport - Anthrazit Metallic/Black (Sold) 1998 M3/4/5 - Technoviolet/Dove (Sold) 2003 Z4 3.0i Sport - Sterlinggrau Metallic/Black (Sold) 2009 Mini JCW (The Wife's) 2015 i3 REx - Arravani Gray/Tera World (Daily Driver) |
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Hmmm I'd probably say 300 ? Thats a guess, since I know they have to be coded to the VIN otherwise they throw a tamper dot.
I'm looking at it from the value it would have to swap onto another vehicle, say a 3.0 or a 4.4, etc - For me it was more cost efficient to add silver rings (or gauge faces too if you prefer) and just repair the cluster for $120 and call it a day.
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2018 Ram 2500 6.7L Cummins 68RFE 19k miles -Bright White/Black - Big Horn Sport - Crew Cab Short Bed 2013 X5 35D (CEO's) - Born on 5/17/2013 - 82k miles - Alpine White/Cinnamon Brown/Premium Pkg, Sport Activity/Premium Pkg and Sound/20" Style 214/Running Boards |
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The 4.6 cluster is unique, and I'm not sure if it'll work in a regular 4.4 or 3.0. Which may make it more or less valuable. It also already has matte silver gauge rings - I think that was standard for the 4.6 because every one that I've seen has them.
I can have the cluster coded to the proper VIN, and with the mileage reset to 0, it won't trigger the tamper dot - the car will think it's a new cluster. Anyway, I hope I can get more than $300. I already have more than that in it! I would think having the mileage zeroed out and the correct VIN has to be worth something?
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2002 X5 4.6is - Imola Red/Black (Sold) 2001 740i M Sport - Anthrazit Metallic/Black (Sold) 1998 M3/4/5 - Technoviolet/Dove (Sold) 2003 Z4 3.0i Sport - Sterlinggrau Metallic/Black (Sold) 2009 Mini JCW (The Wife's) 2015 i3 REx - Arravani Gray/Tera World (Daily Driver) |
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All based on what the market is willing to pay, I have zero experience in that. However I will say the guy parting the 4.6 in the classifieds did sell the cluster extremely quickly, so maybe pm him to ask what he sold it for (Deansbimmer)
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2018 Ram 2500 6.7L Cummins 68RFE 19k miles -Bright White/Black - Big Horn Sport - Crew Cab Short Bed 2013 X5 35D (CEO's) - Born on 5/17/2013 - 82k miles - Alpine White/Cinnamon Brown/Premium Pkg, Sport Activity/Premium Pkg and Sound/20" Style 214/Running Boards |
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For those of you who are looking for a beautifully made, bolt on X-Pipe for your 4.6's, here you go:
Schmiedmann - Tuning for BMW X5 (E53) - New parts - page 6 I have this on my 4.6is along with Eisenmann mufflers and it sounds amazing. It says they have 0 stock now, but maybe they are still making them. Reasonably priced too at around $400! It's made really well. |
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Nice!! And it really is just bolt on?
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2002 X5 4.6is - Imola Red/Black (Sold) 2001 740i M Sport - Anthrazit Metallic/Black (Sold) 1998 M3/4/5 - Technoviolet/Dove (Sold) 2003 Z4 3.0i Sport - Sterlinggrau Metallic/Black (Sold) 2009 Mini JCW (The Wife's) 2015 i3 REx - Arravani Gray/Tera World (Daily Driver) |
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Beautiful truck. I had similar issues with my. Passenger door connector in 2011 when I bought my x5 and did a thread on it. They tend to corrode inside the pins. Love the wheels, my 4.4 wheels aren't cutting it anymore. Time for me to find some like that.
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