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Old 10-26-2016, 07:12 AM
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Honestly, if you're not familiar with how manual trans works then I wouldn't even mess with it. Could cause some trouble for you if you don't understand gearing & matching the revs with the proper speed.
The OP is talking about using the manual mode in his automatic transmission, not about a manual transmission.

If you are in manual mode and stop the car the trans will automatically downshift to 1st gear.
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I know that. It's still possible to cause damage if you're not using it right, specifically downshifting at the wrong speed.
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When you come to a stop and you're in M mode...doesn't the gear you're in appear in the cluster's display (it should)?

Same with if you forget to shift...if you look at the display in the cluster...it should reveal what gear the transmission shifted to in an attempt to save itself from destruction....it should say M1-M6 (depending on which transmission you have...it could say M1-M5).





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I know that. It's still possible to cause damage if you're not using it right, specifically downshifting at the wrong speed.
Even though you are in Manual mode, the EGS is still controlling the transmission. The EGS will know if downshifting from a higher gear to a lower gear will cause the engine to over rev itself and will prevent the shift from occurring.
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If you do not down shift and you come to a complete stop is will down shift for you and the lowest gear it will go into is 2nd you can down shift and it will go into 1st to take off
as for upshifting if you do not shift yourself it will shift it self when you reach near redline..
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Even though you are in Manual mode, the EGS is still controlling the transmission. The EGS will know if downshifting from a higher gear to a lower gear will cause the engine to over rev itself and will prevent the shift from occurring.
Unfortunately that's an issue I've come across myself hence why I made the statement. A couple times the EGS didn't work properly which leads me to believe I really do have a trans or firmware issue. Not that I don't know what I'm doing because I do know how to drive manual. Couple times the revs stayed up wayyy past the point it shouldn't
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Interesting info. This all agrees with my observations on my 2001 3.0i.

The last paragraph there fits with something I've noticed while doing the ATF changes. In those, before checking the ATF level, you're supposed to run through all the gears. Since I'd like to do the ATF change while just two wheels are jacked up on my sloping driveway, I tried keeping the foot on the brake, shifting into steptronic, and then upshifting through the gears. I found I was able to command gears up to M5, but it would always immediately revert to M2, and from feel, it seemed that no attempted shift was actually happening, EXACTLY as specified above. So I concluded that it never really got past M2, and adjusted my ATF-change procedure accordingly.

I actually asked the list at the time if it were really shifting and was confidently assured it was (I did not believe the answer), and now seeing this specific BMW info, this seems to be correct. And anyone doing their own ATF change may be interested in this.
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If you have Dinan transmission software in full manual mode it will not shift until you shift it whether you are upshifting or downshifting.
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I did a test on my 2001 3.0i (GM 5-speed AT, completely stock) last night while on a drive:

Driving along in M4, I came to a stop at a stop light without shifting manually. As I did that, it automatically shifted to M3 and M2, and stayed in M2 while I was sitting at the light for a few seconds. Then I drove away in M2. I did not take it to red line, but I can believe it would have stayed there until I hit red line.

So for my '01 stock 5-speed GM AT, it drops automatically to M2 when needed.
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If you have Dinan transmission software in full manual mode it will not shift until you shift it whether you are upshifting or downshifting.
I've never experienced upshifting before, but fairly certain it has down shifted before into 2nd coming to a stop. So it will let you stall the truck if you have Dinan software? Interesting.
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