3.0 Transmission Experiences

[billdo]

I have been reading about transmission failures. Although I have not had any thing to make me think I have a problem. I do have 120k on a 2003. I car has had an easy life. California desert car never worked hard. I have taken good care of it and done a lot of general maintenance, but no trans fluid change. Been a great car but now I am thinking of getting rid of it before the big bill comes.

Who here has had a tranny problem on these 3.0 with the GM tranny, and at what mileage?

[oldskewel]

Counterpoint ...

Bought my '01 3.0i with ~168k miles, whose owners religiously followed the (lack of) scheduled ATF changes. Yes, original fluid.

I very carefully researched this, and ended up doing 3x drain and fills with DEXRON VI, including two new filters, over the next ~4k miles. Significant improvement in how smoothly and quickly it shifts.

Still running fine at 178k+ miles now.

At 120k you are pretty low still. If you can do the changes carefully or get a good mechanic to do it, I'd highly recommend it. I'd definitely not do a full, powered flush, or take it to somewhere that does not know what they're doing, or do it myself without figuring things out carefully.

From reading many many threads on this list, it seems pretty common for AT failure to follow soon after AT fluid servicing. So yes, it's something that can be screwed up.

Another general tip is that the ZF transmissions use different fluid from these GMs. So to keep it simple, I learned to just ignore anything on the ZF AT's.

[billdo]

I had read that too about failure after servicing. Otherwise I would have done it, as I have done everything else on the car.

I am gonna take down to the dealer and see what kind of trade in value I can get. Probably will not be what I want. I need a bigger car, I wish BMW made a larger SUV.

[upallnight]

Originally Posted by oldskewel

Counterpoint ...

Bought my '01 3.0i with ~168k miles, whose owners religiously followed the (lack of) scheduled ATF changes. Yes, original fluid.

I very carefully researched this, and ended up doing 3x drain and fills with DEXRON VI, including two new filters, over the next ~4k miles. Significant improvement in how smoothly and quickly it shifts.

Still running fine at 178k+ miles now.

At 120k you are pretty low still. If you can do the changes carefully or get a good mechanic to do it, I'd highly recommend it. I'd definitely not do a full, powered flush, or take it to somewhere that does not know what they're doing, or do it myself without figuring things out carefully.

From reading many many threads on this list, it seems pretty common for AT failure to follow soon after AT fluid servicing. So yes, it's something that can be screwed up.

Another general tip is that the ZF transmissions use different fluid from these GMs. So to keep it simple, I learned to just ignore anything on the ZF AT's.

I think a lot of those failures is due to not following the proper procedure to fill the trans. The temperature of the ATF in the trans can't be more than 40C, but when people change the ATF they drive the X until it is at operating temperature. If the engine temp is around 195F or 90C that temp in the ATF is also at 90C which is way over what is recommended.

You can drive it until it is hot, drain the ATF, but wait overnight until the remaining fluid in the trans and torque converter have a chance to cool down to a temp below 40C or 104F before refilling the trans. Hot ATF expands and if the ATF is more than 40C, the fluid would have expanded so that when it has a chance to cool down, the trans will be low since the ATF will have contracted.

[Anhelenuk]

Let it be and not mess with it.

[80stech]

Go ahead check for leaks and change fluid and filter, only one change is necessary no need to do it 2 or more times. And as Upallnight pointed out try to get the level right

[billdo]

GM Stealership only offered $2700 for my problem free 2003 X5. I was not happy and left.