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2005 4.8iS Suspension Trouble
Having problems with my air suspension, and at a loss for what to do next:
2005 e53 4.8iS with the intermittent Inactive Suspension message, which I finally diagnosed to a bad passenger side front sensor (using INPA). Soon after the sensor was replaced, the rear driver side started sagging to the bump stop and the rear passenger side would also drop but not as much. The system resets itself sometimes to normal height all around, and at other times gets stuck and be completely inactive. What should I be looking for? Does the system need to be reset/recalibrated after a sensor swap? Or is this an entirely new problem?
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Thank you, Samer 2005 X5 4.8iS 1989 635CSi M/T |
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I found some issues on my rear air level system that I experimented with that solved my problem.
Jack up the rear on stands. Remove both rear tires On both side sensors: the level arms should be 'exercised' to full swing up and down several times, and spray oil into the joint. I confirmed that my level sensor was stuck at 4.4 volts in any position until I disconnected the pillow ball linkage, and operated the level to full swing positive and negative several times. The left side was responding to a level change just not the right. And when I was performing the level calibration procedure, I would call the ECU function to raise the suspension and would be perplexed as to why the airbags would inflate to raise the rear axle and then drop down again. The reasoning is the sensors were not sending accurate feedback voltages from their measurements to the control module. Perhaps there was dust inside or something. I had this problem on the left side sensor, and then two weeks later on the right side. Which were both solved. The pillow ball joints need to be spray lubricated, and the linkage needs to be free moving over the balls. Previously mine were corroded and stiff. The lever arms and the connecting rod must be pushing at the correct angle again once the vehicle is lowered back down. The calibration procedure was performed using ISTA/D and I can't recall the procedure now but I have it written in my notebook exactly. Bonus tip: I use the product 'AT-205' in a spray bottle, spray the airbags and I used a gloved hand to get the back side of the airbags. This can prevent cracks. I have cracks in my bags, but I don't have any leaks so I want to keep the rubber from drying out.
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2003 4.6, esotril blue, over 215,000KM. Every previous owner failed to keep up the vehicle maintenance. Restoration project. |
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Great tip on the AT-205. I want to get some for my CV boots
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2011 E70 • N55 (me) 2012 E70 • N63 (wife) |
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I use it on the CV boots, driveshaft dampeners, rubber mounts, etc.
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2003 4.6, esotril blue, over 215,000KM. Every previous owner failed to keep up the vehicle maintenance. Restoration project. |
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Can anyone please shed light on what needs lubing via use of photos or diagrams when it comes to the air suspension issue?
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E53 X5 3.0d SUV prod.date 11/2004 eng.variant M57N Europe Right hand drive N |
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Thanks this is great info! I guess the sensor swing arms should be considered serviceable items.
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2004 4.8iS Check out the BMW CCA X Chapter on Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/groups/603822583674050/ |
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I recently saw the tip on Scotty's YouTube channel and wanted to get some so I was very glad to see it mentioned. I put some in my Amazon cart so I won't forget.
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2011 E70 • N55 (me) 2012 E70 • N63 (wife) |
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A simple explanation is that the system operates by each sensor providing a voltage value that is read by the control module. This voltage output varies depending on the position of the arm on the sensor which is linked to the suspension... ie as the suspension moves up or down the voltage output varies and this value is sent to the control module. When you are 'setting' the ride height you are in effect telling the control module which 'voltage output' you prefer on each of the 4 sensors and thus what ride height you want. To achieve the correct ride height, the control module just regulates the pumping in or out of air throughout the system to each air shock which in turn moves the suspension up or down to achieve the 'correct' values you've told it ie the ride height. When you replace a sensor, the voltage outputs are usually different and the system doesn't know where to find the correct value or the sensor output is out of the range it can tolerate. It then has a fit when things get out of its' range and usually shuts down (inactive) when you manipulate the suspension out of level eg when crossing a driveway access ramp / parking on sloping ground. Do a reset and you should be good.
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PREVIOUS 2006 E53 X5 3.0D 2004 E53 X5 4.8is 2004 E53 X5 4.4 Sport 2011 E70 X5 3.0D with Aero kit 2009 E71 X6 50i Sport 2009 E70 X5 50i Sport 2007 E60 540 M Sport LCI (All time favourite car) 2007 E70 X5 4.8i Sport 2005 E53 4.8is 2003 E53 3.0 Sport |
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Excellent explanation and makes ton of sense, thank you!
And now to the $64,000 question: how do you reset the system? Are there step by step instructions somewhere? I tried Google and a search in this forum, with no luck. Sent from my HD1907 using Tapatalk
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Thank you, Samer 2005 X5 4.8iS 1989 635CSi M/T |
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There are basically 3 ways to reset the system
With a 4.8is you WILL need to delve deeper into the suspension quirks sooner or later and a code reader will be insufficient the deeper you go....
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PREVIOUS 2006 E53 X5 3.0D 2004 E53 X5 4.8is 2004 E53 X5 4.4 Sport 2011 E70 X5 3.0D with Aero kit 2009 E71 X6 50i Sport 2009 E70 X5 50i Sport 2007 E60 540 M Sport LCI (All time favourite car) 2007 E70 X5 4.8i Sport 2005 E53 4.8is 2003 E53 3.0 Sport Last edited by LVR; 01-29-2020 at 02:51 PM. |
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