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One code down: P1515. Another one up: P2272
Speaking of inopportune, literally the morning I'm driving the car in for state inspection, I get another Service Engine Soon light. I pull over to check the code and it reads P2272 "O2 sensor signal biased/stuck lean bank 2 sensor 2". I understand WHAT the code is saying, but should I replace both O2's on bank 2, should I look at the injectors, is there a chance it's a DME issue? Also, which one is sensor 2-- pre-cat or post-cat? Any help would be absolutely appreciated! I would LOVE to have this dashboard free of lights! ...and yes, I searched. Only two posts with P2272 and one never addressed it, specifically. Promising... |
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One code down: P1515. Another one up: P2272
Sensor 2 is post cat.
I would swap the post cat connectors to read the real-time values and see if the sensor is reading. Also; reset adaptations may get you a week or more no error code to get an inspection pass while working out the problem.
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Awesome, thanks!
Another few details I should mention: -It has been pretty cold here, the last couple days-- lows of about 20°F (-7°C) and the car ran a little lopey on cold start. Chocked it up to just being properly cold out for the first time since owning this thing. -I re-calibrated the Valvetronic servos a couple months ago. No real change to the car or drivability. -The car does smoke if you let it idle for more than about 5 minutes and it is hot. -I replaced CCV's about this time last year, car still smoked afterward. So, all those things tallied up, should I be looking for a vacuum or intake leak? Could a CCV be causing a lean mixture, somehow? Should I be looking for something more underlying that ties these issues together? I need a real Dr. House of N62's!!! |
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One code down: P1515. Another one up: P2272
The n62 common fault are the CCV "valves"? (Orange diaphragm). You can check for inordinate vaccum by pulling the dipstick while running at idle. Normal for the engine to stumble a bit when you pull but the vacuum shouldn't be crazy high.
You don't mention odometer. N62 will chew through the VSS and I suspect eventually in addition to smoke will allow enough air though to cause lean codes as well.
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That's a great test. I'll check that. I'd be surprised if a CCV problem would cause severe enough lean mixture for the O2 sensor to think it is stuck, right? Could it cause a stumble? The previous owner said he replaced valve stem seals about 2 years ago. Car currently has 130,000 miles on it. Read a thing on the M62B44 that mentioned valve cover gaskets can cause some funky issues including oil burning due to it sucking in air under vacuum. Anybody heard of this on the N62? |
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Do a quick vaccum check from oil fill or dipstick. It should be just a little vacuum.
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I'll do that at lunch. And sorry, maybe I'm thinking of this wrongly: The N62 has no functional throttle while running, so I should feel NO to little vacuum, right? Am I feeling for too much? What would that indicate? With no airflow restriction before the intake valves, how would I create vacuum? |
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I always forget n62 no throttle plate. It does create vacuum though something has to pull in the air/fuel mix :-).
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Understood, yeah. I get that. It's a more complicated system than I realized. That said, and for future searches, found this explanation (https://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-for...lue-smoke.html) of why a vacuum leak and/or failing PRV/CCV/PCV can cause both smoking and a lean mixture: Quote:
This literally is explaining SO much of the issues I've had, including the "cheese" on the PRV. I also wonder if that froze, which is why I'm having so many issues in this weather. I need to get this thing to pass it's inspection in the next few days, but then I think I'm going to dive into some serious vacuum leak hunting. Pray it's not a valve cover gasket....... |
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Okay... false alarm on fixing the P1515-- sort of. While trying to get my readiness done for emissions, I pulled up the BMW codes on my Foxwell. The SES light is off, but along with now the Bank 2 Sensor 1 O2 sensor showing a failure (ironically not the no longer the Bank 2 Sensor 2 is showing a failure), I still see a 2F80 "DME: System time, plausibility" error, which I assume is the P1515 on OBD-II. This seems to be a pretty rare code, unfortunately, and I no longer blame the dealership. Also unfortunately, it seems this points toward DME failure. I'm also wondering if the DME isn't talking to either bank 2 O2's. So... at least a $400 repair at someplace like the-ecu-pro.com. Damn it.
If somebody has a recommendation of what else this could be, PLEASE chime in. Are you guys ever threatened to set your POS Nazirocket on fire? I am close. I should have bought a soulless Toyota. |
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