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How does the "smell" sensor actually work?
So, I am contemplating replacing it yet again... And started to wonder about how it actually works. Does anyone know? For example, what allows it to detect a bad smell? And what is its electrical signal/output when there is no bad smell vs when there is a bad smell?
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From FCP : "Product Information
This clever little sensor detects the levels of oxidizable gasses flowing through the radiator. When a specific threshold is reached, the HVAC recirculation flap closes for a specific time after the noxious gasses are no longer present." Apparently, it's an air temp sensor. If it's too hot, it closes the air flap.
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How do you know it has failed? Did it throw a code?
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Didn't the FCP description say it detects oxidizable gases, not temperature?
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FCP is wrong. It measures hydrocarbons in the air and the HVAC system will use that as input to decide to close off outside air for a few minutes at a time to block certain pollutants. I've monitored the sensor values when passing road construction and for example new asphalt will most certainly engage the automatic system to set recirculating air.
I guess the thing has a heater in it to work it's magic and the heater fails so it will stop working.
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What are the units of measurement?
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How does the "smell" sensor actually work?
It generates a voltage proportional to certain pollutants in the air. I think the range goes from near zero to near 5v. And somewhere near the middle it will close the outside air flaps. I doubt there is any ppm quantity calibration to the voltage scale but I'd be curious to find out.
I have watched in real time both the output of the auc and the flap position. The system definitely works but you get no feedback just less smell.
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@Henn28: Yes, it throws a code.
@AndrewWynn: So if the sensor is broken, then the flap should be permanently closed or open when in "auto" mode. Hopefully it's designed to signal "close" when it fails! :-) Do you know where the flap is located? Can we actually get a look at it without taking stuff apart or even hear it close/open? I am thinking of running a test by sending various voltages manually and see if it activates the mechanism.
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@Henn28: Yes, it throws a code.
@AndrewWynn: So if the sensor is broken, then the flap should be permanently closed or open when in "auto" mode. Hopefully it's designed to signal "close" when it fails! :-) Do you know where the flap is located? Can we actually get a look at it without taking stuff apart or even hear it close/open? I am thinking of running a test by sending various voltages manually and see if it activates the mechanism.
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