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BTW, after the test drive, I was reading some more about the vacuum tests on the forum and it looks like just doing the vacuum test by pumping smoke into the boot (where the MAF would connect) is not thorough enough? Some folks say the vacuum test should also be done where the brake booster vacuum hose connects to the rest of the vacuum hoses. Is the the marked spot on the photo the place to push some smoke into to test from the brake booster side? I assume I have to block off the MAF side of the boot also?
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I've never done a smoke test, but the entire crankcase, not just the intake or boot, is a potential leak because of the "closed CCV." Plus the brake booster and those lines.
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Well, the weather isn't cooperating today. Gonna have to wait until Saturday
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If you haven't already, you might try pulling the MAF connector and taking it for a drive, you never know.
![]() It would be a good idea to try to get the trifecta figured out as well. Make sure the ignition ground wires are in place.
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Ok, I reset the codes, cleared all the adaptions and went for a ride to warm up the engine and test out the MAF theory.
To start with, the car threw the below codes while doing the hard acceleration. I also recorded it on video here. Code:
246: Secondary Air system Bank 2 Error Frequency: 1 Logistic counter: 40 TCO_ST 14.76 Grad C TIA_ST 16.25 Grad C N_32 800.00 rpm VB 13.46 V Ocurred before (rel. BZ) 0.20 h SL throughput too low The fault is emissions related Error debounced Error currently present Static error ------------------------------------ 243: Misfire Cylinder 6 Error Frequency: 1 Logistic counter: 40 TCO 95.25 Grad C N_32_TOL 6016.00 rpm MAF_TOL 452.11 mg/stk MAF_BOL 430.32 mg/stk Ocurred before (rel. BZ) 0.00 h Misfire CARB_A The fault is emissions related Error debounced Error currently present Sporadic error Code:
8: Air mass meter Error frequency: 1 Logistic counter: 40 N_32 1248.00 rpm THR 13.29 Grad TPS ISAPWM_ISA 42.58 % VMAF 0.00 V Ocurred before (rel. BZ) 0.00 h KS --> Ground or interruption The fault is emissions related Error debounced Error currently present Static error Anyway, I had to go buy another compression testing kit. By the time I got back, the engine was no longer hot, just warm. Nevertheless, the new compression tester gave me these results (I only let it turn over 3 times on each cylinder): Code:
Cylinder compression test (warm engine, not hot, 3 turnovers per cylinder) 1: 160, 2: 150, 3: 150, 4: 155, 5: 165, 6: 150 . What do you folks think? Wishful thinking? ![]() I am going to clean the MAF and see if that helps, if it does not, then I am going to take off the air intake and examine every vacuum component/hose on this thing.
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Don't drive it hard when trying figure this out. The compression looks fine though so that's good but one thing that sometimes doesn't show up with a compression test and can be a bit random is worn valve guides, worn cam as well but that should be really consistent.
If you are setting misfire codes when driving normally and not when you are driving normally with the MAF disconnected then that helps. If you need to drive it hard to get the misfire (the one code was set at 6000rpm!) that's a clue too and probably not related to a vacuum leak but if you try too many things at once as far as driving goes it's going to be confusing. The only way to be sure about the MAF is to replace it with a known good one.
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Thanks for continuing to help! The misfires only show up when driving it hard. If I drive it normal, the misfires don't happen, but instead the gear shifting is a bit delayed than normal and so the engine feels weird (underpowered a bit, but not wobbly).
I was only driving it hard so I could have the codes show up and then compare what would happen with the MAF disconnected. The car used to switch gears much earlier. As you saw in the video, on the hard driving, it does not advance to the next gear until it hits 6000 rpm, and that's when it throws the codes (SEL comes on). Yeah, I know the MAF can really only be debugged with a known good unit, which means I gotta buy a new replacement Bosch unit. Sigh. I am going to try cleaning it first before doing that.
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If the misfire only happens at high rpm it could be something in the valve train, bad valve guides, slightly bent valve or maybe even weak valve springs which maybe fits at least a little bit into the overheating. I would concentrate on trying to get it running properly, and without codes without revving the crap out of it for the time being. If you haven't already, you could try disconnecting and reconnecting the connectors on the DME, trans controller and ABS (disconnect the battery) a few times to help eliminate oxidized connections.
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Any progress? Hopefully you driving it a little less enthusiastically for a while to see if that gives some more clues.
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Sorry for the lack of updates. I have not made any progress on it and I also have not been driving it.
As my luck would have it, the vehicle state registration on it expired and so I am not able to get it registered because of the issues it has, but I also can't drive it (except around my small neighborhood) much to test... arghhh...
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