Home Forums Articles How To's FAQ Register
Go Back   Xoutpost.com > BMW SAV Forums > X5 (E53) Forum
Arnott
User Name
Password
Member List Premier Membership Today's Posts New Posts

Xoutpost server transfer and maintenance is occurring....
Xoutpost is currently undergoing a planned server migration.... stay tuned for new developments.... sincerely, the management


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #11  
Old 12-06-2010, 11:43 PM
LeMansX5's Avatar
Admin
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: X5world
Posts: 20,270
LeMansX5 has a spectacular aura aboutLeMansX5 has a spectacular aura aboutLeMansX5 has a spectacular aura about
I have used Bridgestone Blizzak and Dunlop Wintersport and they both hold very good in heavy snow. With good snow tires, it should hold like on rails.
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links

  #12  
Old 12-07-2010, 12:33 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: cowichan bay, bc, canada
Posts: 671
sprocket1200 is on a distinguished road
my Pirelli's work awesome.

i suspect it is the rubber...
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-07-2010, 08:07 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Norway, Oslo
Posts: 78
Hal72 is on a distinguished road
Is your tire brand new? My X5 drives very well, but I do have studded tires. and it can not compare to the Escalade I drove before.

Are you driving on much snow or slush/water/snow. Some all-season tires are better in slush than winter tires. at least with braking.
Reply With Quote
  #14  
Old 12-07-2010, 09:38 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Chicago 'burbs
Posts: 542
TowX is on a distinguished road
My X5 is pretty good in the snow, when I run my Hankook IceBear snow tires. But my old Audi allroad with Dunlop M3 snows was far better. And my wife's Ford Explorer with it's Michelin Cross Terrain tires (year round tires) is also better.

I think part of the problem is the size of the X5 tires. I dropped from the OE 19" staggered wheels to a dedicated set of 18x9 TSW wheels with stock size 255/55-18 snows. They're too wide for some of the snow and can't get down to the pavement for best grip. My Audis always had narrower snows- my A6 ran 235/45-17, my allroad used 225/55-17 tires, and wife's Explorer is 245/65-17. All narrower than the 255's on the 18" wheels.

But the X5 is only slightly less capable than the Audis in traction in the deep snow. Reality is that here in the upper midwest we get a few big dumps a season, but a lot of lighter snowfalls, 6" or less. In this type of snow, the X5 with IceBears is fine. And while the IceBears may not be quite as good as a narrower tire in the deep stuff, they're great on dry and wet winter roads which is probably 75% of what most of us have during the winter season.

If it's any consolation, last winter in the Northwoods of WI when we had a huge snowstorm, I got out of our cabin's driveway and my BIL's Acura MDX was hopelessly stuck. Family next door couldn't get their X3 with all season tires to move at all. But their Escalade got out easily.
__________________
'04 E53, 4.4 Sport
'97 E39 528i
'86 911 Carrera, track car
'96 BMW R1100R
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 12-07-2010, 10:05 AM
motordavid's Avatar
RetiredBum & Semi-RenaissanceMan
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Mtns of Western NC, & SW FLA
Posts: 16,834
motordavid will become famous soon enoughmotordavid will become famous soon enough
Odd that the OP has experienced so-so results...
when I ran in winter, on very very steep, snow and ice covered mtn roads, I had excellent confidence inspiring experiences.
Our '01 is pre-XDrive, but I did run style 57 17 inchers w/the dedicated snows. The X climbed, descended and ran down
the road like a Dall sheep. GL, mD
__________________
Ol'UncleMotor
From the Home Base of Pro Bono Punditry
and 50 Cent Opins...

Our Mtn Scenes, Car Pics, and Road Trip Pics on Flickr:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/4527537...7627297418250/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/4527537...7627332480833/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45275375@N00/

My X Page




Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 12-07-2010, 12:17 PM
c4racer's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Northern CA
Posts: 819
c4racer is on a distinguished road
the type of AWD system matters. Subaru and Audi both use a mechanically locked 50/50 torsen style of diff. That is the best arrangement for the snow. A traditional 4x4 truck will have a similar locked center diff. Not as good is a FWD or RWD platform that electronically pulls in the other axle wheels when it senses slip - such as Haldex.

From what I understand, BMW is somewhere in the middle. There is some minimum split between front and rear - 30/70 or something along those lines, so that means it is a mechanical diff at that split that can then electronically add more to the front wheels as it senses slip. So this arrangement is not as good as 50/50 mechanical diff like Subaru or Quattro or truck based 4x4 SUV. But it's better than an MDX or Volvo.

I still think tires make a bigger difference than the drive type, but even given equal tires the X5 will not be quite as good as Quattro fundamentally.

FWIW - I have owned several of each of these types and driven in the snow. When I was 16 I drove a '63 Impala with studded tires and sand bags in the trunk up skiing every weekend all winter long. I never once got stuck in that. knowing how to drive in the snow is also rather key to the process.
__________________
2003 4.6is - SOLD
2003 M5 Imola
2008 Mini Cooper S
2011 Mazda CX9
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 12-07-2010, 01:11 PM
mywidebody02's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 704
mywidebody02 is on a distinguished road
__________________
04 X5 4.8is
76 2002

X-Pipe and Dinan Mufflers: www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWQh-izaTcY

Pics http://www.flickr.com/photos/stevenb...7607968312734/
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 12-07-2010, 03:47 PM
papasmurf's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 465
papasmurf is on a distinguished road
You're moving down to tiny tires, of course it won't handle well in the dry. In the snow it handles great. Remember, the truck has a much better power/weight ratio than the other vehicles you have driven in the snow, so of course it's going to spin the tires and be more tail-happy.
__________________
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 12-07-2010, 03:56 PM
c4racer's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Northern CA
Posts: 819
c4racer is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by papasmurf View Post
You're moving down to tiny tires, of course it won't handle well in the dry. In the snow it handles great. Remember, the truck has a much better power/weight ratio than the other vehicles you have driven in the snow, so of course it's going to spin the tires and be more tail-happy.
very true, plus the AT trans is tuned rather aggressively in the 4.6is. I was comparing most recently to a similar power to weight performance car - the V8 Audi S4 - actually same HP but 600lbs or so less weight. Quattro and manual trans. Similar sized tires - 235/40/18 on the Audi and 255-50-19 on the X5. Both performance snows from Pirelli. And the Audi is far more planted due to the quattro system. But the X5 is perfectly adequate and better than most in the snow.
__________________
2003 4.6is - SOLD
2003 M5 Imola
2008 Mini Cooper S
2011 Mazda CX9
Reply With Quote
  #20  
Old 12-08-2010, 04:25 PM
Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Calgary
Posts: 362
phil47 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by mywidebody02 View Post
Mine is like it is on rails with my winter tires. Asking as your drive is working it is all in the tires. Pirrelli ice and snow.


Another vote for Pirelli Scorpion Ice and Snow on 18" wheels. Amazing combination. Braking is almost eerie it's so confidence inspiring, and acceleration and handling combined with x-drive are amazing. I have owned other 4wd SUVs running other brands of dedicated winter tires and they don't come close to this combo. Combined with the higher ground clearance for deeper snow, you should be amazed by this vehicle...not disappointed.
__________________
2005 X5 4.4 (Sterling on Truffle) w/sport everything
2011 Audi S4 (Prestige, DSG)
2012 Audi Q7 (Sport, S-Line)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:31 PM.
vBulletin, Copyright 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0
© 2017 Xoutpost.com. All rights reserved. Xoutpost.com is a private enthusiast site not associated with BMW AG.
The BMW name, marks, M stripe logo, and Roundel logo as well as X3, X5 and X6 designations used in the pages of this Web Site are the property of BMW AG.
This web site is not sponsored or affiliated in any way with BMW AG or any of its subsidiaries.