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Old 12-08-2005, 03:34 PM
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HELP!:engine went bad, Foreign Motors West are trying not to cover or help

The accelerator pedal on my 2003 x5 was broken and would get stuck when it was accelerated, making it extremely dangerous. I was coming off an exit in 3rd gear about to go into a turn , when the car wouldnt slow down, it kept accelerating. I panicked as I almost rear ended someone in the turn, braked and attemptede to downshift. I then immediately took into the dealership where i bought and service the car(FOREIGN MOTORS WEST in Natick,MA) and told them what happened. they didnt really believe me until I kept asking for a mechaninic to look at my car. When he saw the accelerator he said it was broken and needed to be replaced, they replaced the accelerator and after that the car was running rough. So I called in to Foreign motors and they told me it was a common problem with the coils on 2003's X5 3.0. The car kept running rough and a Service Engine Soon light came on, so I had to go drop off the car before my appointment as I knew something was wrong. After about 10 days the dealer called me and told me that my engine had an issue of bent valves, and that they were unsure whther this was a warranty issue or not. They told me if BMW didnt cover this, it would be about $3,000 to fix, and worst case scenerio $6,000 depending on how many valves were bent. A week later i get a call that my whole engine needs to be replaced, its all damaged and it was going to be about $12,000 to fix and that there is nothing i can do. My service advisor was literary that rude. I then asked to come in and speak to the Service Manager, his name is Lance Mitchell. He told me that this was caused due to an overrev, and this is a really rare case he only sees in his experience maybe one or two of these cases a year. He said it was clearly my fault, and then I told him that I dont ride the car hard, that this probably happened due to the accelerator getting stuck. he laughed at me and told me than in his 8 years of experience he has never heard of an accelerator misteriously getting stuck. I told him to check the record and what the mechanic said earlier as i brough the car in for this problem. He then checked his computer and was surprised. He then went on that his report said the accelerator was broken and replaced under warranty, and then i told him But you just said that in all of your 8 years of experience with BMW's you had never seen an accelerator pedal getting stuck. he then went around in circles that he had seen many accelerator pedals break off, but none that get suck. Furthermore he said that no matter how fast I was going or how powerful an engine is, the brakes would override the engine. he explained how he has track experience, and kept going around in circles. i then asked for a printout of the overrev codes, which he didnt have, and what BMW NA thought about this, and he didnt have any overrev printouts with him, or any further information, and he hadnt even contacted BMW NA. I called another dealer, herb Chambers and they told me that in the case that BMW wouldnt help me out there were other options such as finding a low mileage used engine, and they were going to work with me to please have the car sent over to them. I am just shocked that all of this is happening since I bought a BMW due to their great service and reputaion that follows their name, and Im even more shocked how bad and unwilling this Dealer, Foreign Motors West has been. Does anyone have any advice or experience dealing with BMW NA Custumer Service, as to what I should do now.

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the car is a 2003, with 28k miles, so its under factory warranty
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Old 12-08-2005, 03:44 PM
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hold on. ur still under warranty?
that being the case, how can they deny
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Old 12-08-2005, 03:45 PM
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Here's one thing you could do. We did and it worked.( Not with a car though) In our area there's an ABC news program called 7 on your side. You can call them and if you have a good consumer case they will broadcast the problem and go to bat for you. Unwanted media coverage is some thing no dealership wants. Make sure you have all your records ect.
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hold on. ur still under warranty?
that being the case, how can they deny
u service?
There saying He's responsible.
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Old 12-08-2005, 03:57 PM
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That does not make any sense to me. In my opinion the factory warranty should work here.
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:05 PM
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That does not make any sense to me. In my opinion the factory warranty should work here.
Not if they are claiming it was driver error.
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Old 12-08-2005, 05:10 PM
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Have you contacted BMWNA? if not I strongly advise you do, also seek legal help and this will help in having legal documentation.
In matters like this, the whole he/she said does not become credible until a lawyer steps in. Good luck and hope it all works out for you.

(if you need any help, PM me I might be able to help a little since I have a relative that works for BMW Peabody)
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Broken accelerator=driver's fault?
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Broken accelerator=driver's fault?
No, I think it really goes

expensive repair = driver's fault = more profit to dealer
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Sounds to me like something fishy is up.

For one, I'm almost positive these cars have rev limiters to prevent over-revving (do you have a manual transmission?).

Also, how can they at first claim that it's bent valves, and then say the entire motor needs replacing. If the valves are bent, then the valves need replacing; if they "kissed" the pistons (doubtful), then possibly the pistons and valves will need replacing though that I don't think that's likely.

I have a hard time believing you were able to over-revved the motor. This problem should be completely covered by BMW under their factory warranty and I would expect to be driving a rental on their dime right now.

FWIW, I would have taken the car to a true BMW dealership first for a problem as serious as this.

Just my opinion, hope it all works out and keep us updated.
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