Home Forums Articles How To's FAQ Register
Go Back   Xoutpost.com > BMW SAV Forums > X5 (E53) Forum
Arnott
User Name
Password
Member List Premier Membership Today's Posts New Posts

Xoutpost server transfer and maintenance is occurring....
Xoutpost is currently undergoing a planned server migration.... stay tuned for new developments.... sincerely, the management


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #31  
Old 01-20-2012, 12:36 AM
JCL's Avatar
JCL JCL is offline
Premier Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 11,853
JCL will become famous soon enoughJCL will become famous soon enough
To see the difference in vehicle mounting with OE and aftermarket hitches, look at the BMW instructions here: http://www.bmwmotorsports.org/pdf/e5...iler_hitch.pdf

Look at section 2.3 to see the reinforcements BMW uses. Some hitches just bolt to the rear pan. Others attach at the same point as the OE hitch but don't use any reinforcements. The reinforcements tie into the longitudinal box sections in the unibody and are cross bolted in three planes.

The instructions show the Euro hitch but the mounting is identical
__________________
2007 X3 3.0si, 6 MT, Premium, White

Retired:
2008 535i, 6 MT, M Sport, Premium, Space Grey
2003 X5 3.0 Steptronic, Premium, Titanium Silver

2002 325xi 5 MT, Steel Grey
2004 Z4 3.0 Premium, Sport, SMG, Maldives Blue
Reply With Quote

Sponsored Links

  #32  
Old 01-22-2012, 09:47 AM
Ghost-Flame's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Doylestown, Pa
Posts: 435
Ghost-Flame is on a distinguished road
After reading the pdf above, I have to concead that the oem installation looks like a better design. You can see by the photos below that the third point on the draw tite transfers the towing force to the frame member that holds the rear wheel suspension (I guess its the axle).

While this design creates a strong and probably fail proof towing connection it may not give you the torsion support needed. It is attached to the car underneath the bumper (not visible) which might handle all the torsion support you need. Since I didn't install it, and I'm not removing the tupper-wear to see it, I don't know how much beef is there in those two contact points. If I were to to it again I would buy the hitch from BMW and install it my self.

Side Note: when I got this hitch, My wife and I made an impromtu trip to Key West with my Motorcycle trailered. I needed the hitch right now! the only place that could take me that quick was a trailer dealer that I have been dealing with for 20 yrs. He put me first in the que and installed it the next day. So my decision was somewhat of an impulse with little research





__________________
2002 BMW X5 3.0
2006 Ford Explorer 6 cyl
1998 VW Jetta 2.0 GLS
2004 Honda VTX1800C 100hp 97 lb of torque
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 01-25-2012, 01:45 AM
Blade69's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 136
Blade69 is on a distinguished road
Geez...$430 bucks? I guess that's not a lot considering you'll be towing cars. I'll only be towing 2-3 motorcycles so I think I'll be good with the aftermarket. but after seeing how ugly it sticks out like that, I may opt for OEM as I like a clean look. Had a Hidden Hitch on my Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7L Hemi and I forgot I had bikes back there most of the time.

However my question is this. With my Jeep, there was a "TOW/HAUL" button which pretty much locked the trans into 4th gear to keep it from fishing around between 4th and 5th. I noticed my X5 4.8is doesn't have such a button. Should I manually shift over and put in a lower gear? I'll be towing the bikes for approximately 900 miles. Should I get my trans fluid changed beforehand also?
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 01-25-2012, 02:15 AM
JCL's Avatar
JCL JCL is offline
Premier Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 11,853
JCL will become famous soon enoughJCL will become famous soon enough
Quote:
Originally Posted by Blade69 View Post
Geez...$430 bucks? I guess that's not a lot considering you'll be towing cars. I'll only be towing 2-3 motorcycles so I think I'll be good with the aftermarket. but after seeing how ugly it sticks out like that, I may opt for OEM as I like a clean look. Had a Hidden Hitch on my Jeep Grand Cherokee 5.7L Hemi and I forgot I had bikes back there most of the time.

However my question is this. With my Jeep, there was a "TOW/HAUL" button which pretty much locked the trans into 4th gear to keep it from fishing around between 4th and 5th. I noticed my X5 4.8is doesn't have such a button. Should I manually shift over and put in a lower gear? I'll be towing the bikes for approximately 900 miles. Should I get my trans fluid changed beforehand also?
Get the OE hitch. It includes the electrics. You won't regret it.

While you don't have a 5th gear lockout, you do have Steptronic. Leave it in automatic, not sport mode. Determine if the vehicle is hunting for gears on a hill when towing. Unlikely, but watch the tach. If it does, shift into manual mode to stop it hunting. Don't go into a lower gear than you have to. With a 4.8 and only towing bikes, it is unlikely that will have to worry about it at all. The main thing is to prevent unnecessary shifts, and to keep the torque converter in lock-up mode. Those two things keep the heat down. No need to change your trans fluid before towing.
__________________
2007 X3 3.0si, 6 MT, Premium, White

Retired:
2008 535i, 6 MT, M Sport, Premium, Space Grey
2003 X5 3.0 Steptronic, Premium, Titanium Silver

2002 325xi 5 MT, Steel Grey
2004 Z4 3.0 Premium, Sport, SMG, Maldives Blue
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 01-25-2012, 12:40 PM
TiAgX5's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Coppell,TX
Posts: 3,489
TiAgX5 is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ghost-Flame View Post




I see you use yours as a jacking point too!
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 01-25-2012, 01:06 PM
Ghost-Flame's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Doylestown, Pa
Posts: 435
Ghost-Flame is on a distinguished road
Yes it is a perfect jacking point. It is dead center, it distributes the weight to the frame and lifts the car evenly on both sides so I can fit the jack stands under the rear corners.
__________________
2002 BMW X5 3.0
2006 Ford Explorer 6 cyl
1998 VW Jetta 2.0 GLS
2004 Honda VTX1800C 100hp 97 lb of torque
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 01-25-2012, 01:13 PM
TiAgX5's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Coppell,TX
Posts: 3,489
TiAgX5 is on a distinguished road
Easier to get at too! I've been jacking my X the same way.
Reply With Quote
  #38  
Old 01-25-2012, 01:29 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Livermore, CA
Posts: 20
LeftCoastErik is on a distinguished road
ECS, does that kit work on the e70 also?
Reply With Quote
  #39  
Old 01-25-2012, 04:31 PM
JCL's Avatar
JCL JCL is offline
Premier Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Posts: 11,853
JCL will become famous soon enoughJCL will become famous soon enough
Ghost, TiAg:

If you could get right under the hitch attachment bolts (at the rear pan) then the OE hitch is rated for a 600 lb vertical load. This hitch would be similar in capacity, as it is loading the rear attachment point in shear, with no bending moment.

But bring the trolley jack back towards the middle of that aftermarket hitch strut, and you introduce bending forces. Also, the rear of the X5 weighs a bit more than 600 lbs. Quite a bit, in fact.

Not that I'd recommend it, but you could just as easily lift on any part of the sheetmetal underneath the vehicle, it would have the same strength.

I'd say it is a terrible jacking point, for those reasons.
__________________
2007 X3 3.0si, 6 MT, Premium, White

Retired:
2008 535i, 6 MT, M Sport, Premium, Space Grey
2003 X5 3.0 Steptronic, Premium, Titanium Silver

2002 325xi 5 MT, Steel Grey
2004 Z4 3.0 Premium, Sport, SMG, Maldives Blue
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 01-25-2012, 04:36 PM
ECS Tuning's Avatar
Vendor
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Ohio
Posts: 1,399
ECS Tuning is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by LeftCoastErik View Post
ECS, does that kit work on the e70 also?
The hitch kit found HERE is the one for the E70. Now in my notes I'm seeing that if you have the M Aero bumpers the kit will have fitment issues, or you'll have to do some serious cutting to your bumper.

ECS Tuning
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
towing, trailering


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:02 PM.
vBulletin, Copyright 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0
© 2017 Xoutpost.com. All rights reserved. Xoutpost.com is a private enthusiast site not associated with BMW AG.
The BMW name, marks, M stripe logo, and Roundel logo as well as X3, X5 and X6 designations used in the pages of this Web Site are the property of BMW AG.
This web site is not sponsored or affiliated in any way with BMW AG or any of its subsidiaries.