Another Oil Sperator Question....

SLX5 · #1 02-04-2009, 01:13 PM

I just went to the stealer and picked up an Oil Separator for $90. i asked the guy if this is the insulated kind so this damn thing wouldn't happen to me again and he didn't know (the temp was 9°F and the windchill was -15°F last night, oil spewed out from the top side, people here suggested it was the valve gasket and separator)

Do you guys know if BMW redesigned this part so crap like this wouldn't happen? if its is the same separator i have in the X5, i am thinking about leaving it? Any thoughts recommendations?

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primetime · #2 02-04-2009, 01:40 PM

Ask the dealer about the service bulletin regarding oil seperators/crankcase...Tell him you want the insulated parts, the new updated parts. That guy is an idiot whoever you talked to in the parts department. Ask him to ask a service tech about it, they will most likely know what it is you're talking about..

SLX5 · #3 02-04-2009, 02:06 PM

I talked to a couple of them their but they had no clue. I thought about buying one from pelicanparts.com they have one

E61Silver · #4 02-04-2009, 02:09 PM

I don't understand this seems to a known defect my is BMW not responsible?

primetime · #5 02-04-2009, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by x54.4blue

I don't understand this seems to a known defect my is BMW not responsible?

I've wondered this many times myself...BMW won't pay for anything even though its a known issue...They'd rather everyone pay thousands of dollars to get it fixed..They like $$ more then they like us...Not very nice, especially since we are their customers who are buying their cars..

NOVAX5 · #6 02-04-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by primetime

...They like $$ more then they like us...Not very nice, especially since we are their customers who are buying their cars..

So you think they like us because we bought their cars in the first place? The answer is NO, NO and NO. First they make profit out of our purchase then they give you run around when you have warranty and when the warranty expires, they will empty your wallet in a blink of an eye. Where is the part that they like us because we bought $70K cars?

primetime · #7 02-04-2009, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by NOVAX5

So you think they like us because we bought their cars in the first place? The answer is NO, NO and NO. First they make profit out of our purchase then they give you run around when you have warranty and when the warranty expires, they will empty your wallet in a blink of an eye. Where is the part that they like us because we bought $70K cars?

What part of "They like $$ more then they like us" did you not understand? They'd rather us pay to have the car fixed (even though the item is a known problem) then have themselves eat the bill...Its that simple..And trust me, I agree with you about the run around stuff..

TwinsPoppa · #8 02-04-2009, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by NOVAX5

So you think they like us because we bought their cars in the first place? The answer is NO, NO and NO. First they make profit out of our purchase (Thanx for the $) then they give you run around when you have warranty (Thanx -you have to spend $ for service that should be under warranty) and when the warranty expires, they will empty your wallet in a blink of an eye (Thanx again for the $). Where is the part that they like us because we bought $70K cars?

See above ... they don't like us but like our money.

amacman · #9 02-04-2009, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by primetime

What part of "They like $$ more then they like us" did you not understand? They'd rather us pay to have the car fixed (even though the item is a known problem) then have themselves eat the bill...Its that simple..And trust me, I agree with you about the run around stuff..

I THINK THAT FRAUD AND DISHONOUR SEEMS TO BE THE WAY OF LIFE AT BMW AS IS THE WAY IN THE BUSINESS WORLD. DO NOT ENTERTAIN THEM ANY MORE. THERE ARE MUCH SIMPLER TECHNOLOGIES BECOMING AVAILABLE.

lo_jack · #10 02-04-2009, 03:56 PM

Actually I think that the BMW business model, which is mostly a function of the entire way the global auto industry has gone in the past 20 years, does not account for people outside warranty or not in a lease. Of course this the far end of the spectrum, but if you think about it, a less than ideal PCV system is accounted for in the warranty. They expect you to want the newer, cooler model. They expect you to pay for it willingly, even when your old vehicle is serviceable. This is just as much a function of consumer behavior as it is the manufacturer's business. At which point, the PCV system failing sporadically after 45k is doable.

If you expect your customers to buy new, keep for 3 years and trade in...then problems at or beyond 60k miles (where many of these problems happen) are outside of the model, and before 60k miles are very much out of the model, as they are under original warranty. This allows them to engineer for short term performance. I keep coming back to this over and over. If you expect your consumer to keep your car for 100k miles, you engineer to 100k miles, and you make compromises in performance to do it. If you expect less, you design for less. And it costs less to do that. If you anticipate your typical X5 driver will never turn a wrench, and hand it over to your dealership again plus cash for a new one every few years, you do not have to design for durability, and can concentrate on performance and looks.

Thinking about that though, any company in the business of building cars does better to sell you a new car every 3 years than to have you hold onto one of their products for a decade and have minimal service issues. That's logic.

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