E53 on Ice!

[JCL]

Originally Posted by GRBE53

I can't claim the X is particularly good on ice/snow. Lived in Wisconsin for 20 years so have plenty of experience and I will drive my Honda Pilot in the crud as I finds the X is prone to nasty under steer on the slippery stuff, being so heavy.

We've had three BMW awd vehicles in recent years. All were used in winter conditions, generally crossing mountain passes on road trips each winter since we have mild winters in Vancouver. All were 6 cyl. Two manuals and one automatic; only the x3 had the more sophisticated x drive.

The 325xi was the best in the snow, including deep snow. X3 comes second. X5 comes third. I never got stuck with the X5, it did pretty well, but the other two outperformed it. It all comes down to weight, given similar tires.

[nyum96]

Unless you have been in the south and in a real ice storm, 1-2" of snow quickly turns into thick ice. As I walked the last 5 miles home on Tuesday night (10 hours to go 10 miles in the work suv, then ditched it in the parking lot) I met a lot of great people walking with me from Ohio and New York. All fully understanding what a real ice storm is and admitted it wasn't like the north but worse. These are also the people who created dangerous driving conditions by passing in oncoming traffic lanes. They left their cars in the middle of the roads. That's what they admitted freely. From the short 5 mile walk, anything that is rear wheel drive, you were screwed. AWD cars did fine except for the Porsche Panamera. That guy parked his car back in the woods. Unfortunately, RWD cars and 2WD trucks are more popular due to the environment. BTW, X5 did fine on summer slicks and I use to live in upstate NY for many years.

[Brandon002]

Yep, because we don't get freezing rain and ice storms in Chicago.

[Brandon002]

[ProfessorX5]

My X does great in snow, ice and slush, with just lowly a/s tires. Brakes beautifully, dodges bad drivers like a champ.

[BMRSEB]

Originally Posted by nyum96

Unless you have been in the south and in a real ice storm, 1-2" of snow quickly turns into thick ice. As I walked the last 5 miles home on Tuesday night (10 hours to go 10 miles in the work suv, then ditched it in the parking lot) I met a lot of great people walking with me from Ohio and New York. All fully understanding what a real ice storm is and admitted it wasn't like the north but worse. These are also the people who created dangerous driving conditions by passing in oncoming traffic lanes. They left their cars in the middle of the roads. That's what they admitted freely. From the short 5 mile walk, anything that is rear wheel drive, you were screwed. AWD cars did fine except for the Porsche Panamera. That guy parked his car back in the woods. Unfortunately, RWD cars and 2WD trucks are more popular due to the environment. BTW, X5 did fine on summer slicks and I use to live in upstate NY for many years.

^ This.. I lived in NYC for over 18 years and now 16 so far in Atlanta. I lived through the "feet" of snow that we would get on occasion in the 90's and drove through them.

This is ICE folks completely different beast, I don't care what you drive short of one of those behemoth trucks with studded tires w/nails sticking out you ain't going nowhere. Of course, much could be said or not about the unpreparedness of the city being that they were fully aware.. But hopefully, a lesson hard-learned.

FWIW.. I drove at a moderate speed with my X3 and still was slipping and sliding away.. )

[Brandon002]

So what do you think Atlanta should do? Invest in plows and salt trucks or shut the entire city down because of a little snow?

[JCL]

Originally Posted by Brandon002

So what do you think Atlanta should do? Invest in plows and salt trucks or shut the entire city down because of a little snow?

Start planning to deal with climate change. For some places that means investing in salt/sand/plow trucks. For others it means investing in flood control/sandbags/pumps.

[Brandon002]

I agree with you, but it seems folks in Atlanta would rather their entire city shut down before the city uses tax dollars to buy trucks to prepare for winter.

[BMRSEB]

Originally Posted by JCL

Start planning to deal with climate change. For some places that means investing in salt/sand/plow trucks. For others it means investing in flood control/sandbags/pumps.

There you go Brandon... It is not that hard.. the "times they are a' changing".. Atlanta needs to adapt and be now prepared for these situations. No longer can we say "this is the south, no snow here".. I was under the same impression when I first moved here and we had a cold snap of 30 degrees and below.. I said to myself, I thought I moved down here for warmer weather!?

Looks like Puerto Rico is next?