Home Forums Articles How To's FAQ Register
Go Back   Xoutpost.com > BMW SAV Forums > X5 (E53) Forum
Arnott
User Name
Password
Member List Premier Membership Today's Posts New Posts

Xoutpost server transfer and maintenance is occurring....
Xoutpost is currently undergoing a planned server migration.... stay tuned for new developments.... sincerely, the management


Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-24-2014, 02:06 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Lombard, IL
Posts: 531
garrett.fell is on a distinguished road
Valley pan gasket change on N62?

I am not finding much information on this topic at all. No DIY's. Nothing on YouTube etc.

How big of a job is this?

I am suspecting that that's the source of my coolant leak but I cannot confirm it. I pressure tested the system over the weekend (16 psi) and it's pushing coolant over and around the outside of the bellhousing on the passengers side of the car. I've looked all over but cannot see the point if origination at this time I've peeked all over with an inspection camera. I just can't see it with enough clarity to confirm anything.

It doesn't seem to do this when the engine is warm - so the leak must be pretty slight. I took it for a 20 mile run and no drips at all. However I get a pretty steady drip-drip-drip when I pressure test cold.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Garrett Fell
2014 Honda Pilot - The *new* wife mobile
2005 BMW X5 - 4.4i - It's mine now!
2003 Honda CRV - My train car
1959 VW Beetle - My toy (13.18 @ 100.86 in the 1/4)
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-24-2014, 07:23 PM
TwinTurboGTR's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Monmouth County, Nj
Posts: 1,718
TwinTurboGTR is on a distinguished road
The N62 VPG isn't like the M62... it's a real BIOTCH!. Not only that, there is also another manifold attached to the back of the block that is another failure point. VPG job on the N62, is not a fun job. Luckily, there are companies out there that have designed a new pipe to allows you to R&R without removing the front of the block. If you look up in google, Valley Pan Pipe N62 or something along those lines, a few vids will pop up. From there, you can see what is involved.
__________________
2011 E70 50i M Sport


Exterior: Alpine Weiss III Interior: Nevada

PACKAGES: .
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-24-2014, 08:16 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Lombard, IL
Posts: 531
garrett.fell is on a distinguished road
As I've been researching this issue - I gather that the leakage symptoms I am experiencing could be either because of the VPG, the infamous "tube" or a combination of the two? The only way to tell for sure is to disassemble and see if coolant has filled the valley-area where the tube runs through. It should be dry? That valley pan is supposed to isolate those two areas? While it's all apart it probably makes sense to do the tube as well. Because it will fail.

I've seen a great deal of info on the various designs for tube replacement, but haven't seen much that outlines the disassembly process.

You mentioned one additional area that can leak. I should check that out a little more. I guess I'll need to remove all of ventilation stuff towards the rear of the engine compartment so I can see around the backside of the engine more

I need to pick up some more
coolant before I hook the pressure tester up again! I pushed quite a bit onto the floor the other night - so my reserves have been depleted. I am out of extra coolant now.

This issue is really disturbing for me. I guess I need to make the decision to keep it or dump it.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Garrett Fell
2014 Honda Pilot - The *new* wife mobile
2005 BMW X5 - 4.4i - It's mine now!
2003 Honda CRV - My train car
1959 VW Beetle - My toy (13.18 @ 100.86 in the 1/4)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 02-25-2014, 10:21 AM
TwinTurboGTR's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Monmouth County, Nj
Posts: 1,718
TwinTurboGTR is on a distinguished road
Well depending on outside temps, if it isn't dipping below freezing, just dump straight water in there for now. So you fill the system with water and see where you are loosing coolant. Then if you plan on still driving it, just add the coolant at full strength to even the mix out. This way at least you're not just wasting coolant.

Now I am not sure how mechanically inclined you are, but the job is pretty straight forward. Once you get the connections off and the intake manifold off, you will be presented with the Coolant transfer pipe/valley pan. Now in most cases,it is the valley pan or pipe, but sometimes it is the cap assembly shown here... No.5 on the diagram


If that is the culprit, the motor needs to be pulled.

But before doing all that work, I would pull the fresh air intake cowl and take a good look at the heater core hoses. There was a member on here that thought the same as you, but after a bit more investigating... it ended up being a cracked hose right by the heater core.

So check carefully.
__________________
2011 E70 50i M Sport


Exterior: Alpine Weiss III Interior: Nevada

PACKAGES: .
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 02-25-2014, 12:59 PM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Lombard, IL
Posts: 531
garrett.fell is on a distinguished road
I am pretty confident with my mechanical skills in general - I've been working on cars for 20+ years, but it's been highly focused on air-cooled Volkswagens. Comparatively VERY simple when compared to the X!

I'll give it another go after I remove the cowl and see what I can see. From memory I did look at the heater hoses on the drivers side of the firewall. Those looked good - I don't recall where they went from there though. I'll get another shot this weekend.

I can't wait until we get temperatures above freezing!!! This winter in Chicago has been brutal.


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
__________________
Garrett Fell
2014 Honda Pilot - The *new* wife mobile
2005 BMW X5 - 4.4i - It's mine now!
2003 Honda CRV - My train car
1959 VW Beetle - My toy (13.18 @ 100.86 in the 1/4)
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 02-27-2014, 12:46 AM
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: sandy UTAH
Posts: 545
squidzilla is on a distinguished road
I have the N62 engine in my 545i speed and I used the allgermanauto.com coolant pipe. All of the cars that have this engine and this leak do not need to pull the engine using this pipe. I don't see why you would need to pull the engine just because it is in an X5.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 02-27-2014, 08:23 AM
TwinTurboGTR's Avatar
Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2009
Location: Monmouth County, Nj
Posts: 1,718
TwinTurboGTR is on a distinguished road
Quote:
Originally Posted by squidzilla View Post
I have the N62 engine in my 545i speed and I used the allgermanauto.com coolant pipe. All of the cars that have this engine and this leak do not need to pull the engine using this pipe. I don't see why you would need to pull the engine just because it is in an X5.
The motor doesn't need to be pulled for the coolant transfer pipe or valley pan, but it does need to be pulled if the rear cover seal is leaking. Then it needs to be pulled because it isn't accessible while it is in the bay.
__________________
2011 E70 50i M Sport


Exterior: Alpine Weiss III Interior: Nevada

PACKAGES: .
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 02-27-2014, 09:46 AM
tmv's Avatar
tmv tmv is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 3,348
tmv is on a distinguished road
^Yup, either pull the engine or drop the tranny to replace that gasket.
BMP design : When to Check your BMW Cooling System
__________________

00 E39 DINAN S1 //M5 (82k miles)
06 E53 DINAN 4.8iS, born 2/18/2006 (126k miles) http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...s-my-dslr.html
90 Straman Z32 TwinTurbo Convertible, (1 of 44 ever made) 5 speed, 444rwhp/451rwtq
01 360 Novitec Spider F1 (26k miles)
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:49 PM.
vBulletin, Copyright 2026, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. SEO by vBSEO 3.6.0
© 2017 Xoutpost.com. All rights reserved. Xoutpost.com is a private enthusiast site not associated with BMW AG.
The BMW name, marks, M stripe logo, and Roundel logo as well as X3, X5 and X6 designations used in the pages of this Web Site are the property of BMW AG.
This web site is not sponsored or affiliated in any way with BMW AG or any of its subsidiaries.