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Old 12-10-2013, 12:24 PM
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Finally Have A Reason to Get Rid of the X5!!

Well it looks like it's time to get rid of my 2002 X5 4.6is...and go ahead and purchase my dream SUV, a Grand Cherokee SRT8, if I sound excited it's because I am...lol! So here's what happened, started it up yesterday morning, hear this clicking, clacking noise, immediately shut it down, start it again, same noise, shut it down again. Fire up the laptop, do a search here, (this site is awesome) found two threads that have the exact same symptoms, looks like the timing chains guides need replacing. Looks like it's an expensive (even if you DIY) and time consuming job, so now I have justification (more for my wife...lol) to get a 1st Gen SRT8. I haven't decided if I'll fix it before I get rid it, if anyone in Northern California wants to shoot me an offer, PM me.

Now for those of you driving high mileage V8's if you hear a noise that sounds like an old GM power steering pump whining/failing (prior to the clicking clacking noise) it's the timing chain guides, check out the two threads below.


http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...my-m62b46.html

http://www.xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-foru...ing-apart.html
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Old 12-10-2013, 12:39 PM
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Your resignation has been rejected by the board...

Thanks for the heads up and enjoy the SRT8
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Old 12-10-2013, 01:20 PM
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Should have replace the Timing Chain Tensioner when you have "Marble in a Can" sound at start up. When you have a " Diesel" sound, it's too late and the Timing Chain Guide need to be replaced.
GL with your choice. I'd rather replace the Timing Chain Guide and enjoy the 4.6iS, even though the Cherokee SRT8 isn't a bad replacement.

giodog2000, you have N62 engine in your 4.8iS, not the M62TU in the 4.6iS. I haven't heard or see thread about its chain guide. You have the rear main seal to deal with though.
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Old 12-10-2013, 02:58 PM
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sure I'll take the 4.6 with bad chain guides, I'll ship it out to my indy to do the work.

Problem is, i won't be paying you top dollar for it.

You might try a shady sale to a local with no test drives, but if you drive it much its really a ticking time bomb, and we already know how rare the 4.6 engine is (and a lot it seems have been dying lately), gosh i hope you let it go cheap enough to a member on the boards who can fix it up nice, drive it and enjoy it!

What other maintenance does it need and what are the color combo/options/specs on it and how many miles?
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Old 12-11-2013, 02:29 PM
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sure I'll take the 4.6 with bad chain guides, I'll ship it out to my indy to do the work.

Problem is, i won't be paying you top dollar for it.

You might try a shady sale to a local with no test drives, but if you drive it much its really a ticking time bomb, and we already know how rare the 4.6 engine is (and a lot it seems have been dying lately), gosh i hope you let it go cheap enough to a member on the boards who can fix it up nice, drive it and enjoy it!

What other maintenance does it need and what are the color combo/options/specs on it and how many miles?

Well of course I won't get top dollar for it if I don't fix it, that's a no brainer. If I get the SRT8 sooner rather than later I don't care, I would just want to get it out of my garage. I didn't drive it and won't drive it, I'm driving my C5 Corvette for my daily driver, plus it's a lot more fun rowing through that 6spd gearbox...lol! Here's a list of what I've done and what it needs.

What I've Done.
Jan 2011: New Ceramic Brake Pads and 4 Rotors
June 2011: Installed BG Front Lowering Springs, Rear Lowering Links
Mar 2011: New Bosch +4 Plugs
July 2011: Upgraded All Lights to LED, both Interior and Exterior, my X has no filament light bulbs at all, Fogs are HID 4300K
Aug 2011: Installed Powerflex Thrust Rod Bushings
Oct 2012: New water pump and both Belts
Nov 2012: Replaced Vavle Cover Gaskets
Jan 2013: Replaced Radiator, Expansion Tank and all cooling system hoses
July 2013: Upgraded the Cargo Cover to the retractable type
Aug 2013: Replaced Alternator

What it needs
1. Front passenger Outside Door Handle and window clips need replacing, I have the clips.
2. Right Rear Window Regulator, I have the part.
3. Left Rear Outside Door Handle
4. And of course Timing Chain Guides

Info: 2002 X5 4.6is, black on black, 200700 miles, interior and exterior paint is in great condition.
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Old 12-11-2013, 03:13 PM
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Info: 2002 X5 4.6is, black on black, 200700 miles, interior and exterior paint is in great condition.

Well with 200k miles, I guess you got your moneys worth out of the original guides? LOL!
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Old 12-10-2013, 05:27 PM
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I got a couple of more years with my X before I start looking for a SRT.
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I have a buddy with an SRT8 pushing around 750hp after a ton of mods, engine boring, blower etc.. It's a bad a$$ truck, but I still prefer my X5 as it drives 100x better, feels more solid and the quality of materials in the cockpit are lightyears above the SRT.
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a dodge wil be a dodge no matter what I worked on those things for over 10 years at a dodge dealership ,dodge takes to many short cuts on their vehicles not much quality control . even when I worked at the dealer we wouldn`t buy dodges just for that reason. but other manufactures might be the same way who knows ,but what I know and had to deal with at dodge , customer service sucks and give clients a hard time about warranties all the time. because of headoffice is a big headache. even for us working for them.
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a dodge wil be a dodge no matter what I worked on those things for over 10 years at a dodge dealership ,dodge takes to many short cuts on their vehicles not much quality control . even when I worked at the dealer we wouldn`t buy dodges just for that reason. but other manufactures might be the same way who knows ,but what I know and had to deal with at dodge , customer service sucks and give clients a hard time about warranties all the time. because of headoffice is a big headache. even for us working for them.

Yeah I here ya, I used to work at a BMW dealership in the mid 90's, and we felt the same way about BMW, wouldn't own one...lol! And believe me, BMW to this day aint the poster child for quality and reliability...lol!
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