N63 class action lawsuit

[n64456]

How many members have gotten satisfaction from this settlement?

https://bangclasssettlement.com/Home/portalid/0

Does this make buying a vehicle with the 1st gen N63 engine less of a gamble?

I'm looking at a 60,000 mile 2014 X6 with this engine, and this seems to make me breathe a bit easier. Carfax doesn't list the CCP being done on it; and it was maintained at a local BMW dealer. I'm going to call that dealer with the VIN and see whats been done to it regarding the CCP. Service records shows about 10K miles between documented oil changes.

For some reason the search function on this page keeps dropping the "N63" part of my search queries; and I couldn't pull anything up using the search function.

[ard]

lol


Instead of being massively hosed with a bad engine, you are moderately hosed when the engine fails. And if it gets past the limit under the lawsuit, back to massively screwed.


Search tip: Put N63 in quotes: "N63". but may owners dont use that in posts.


The ccp doesnt fix the issue- just delayed the bad symptoms to later. The bang settlement covers a part (small part?) of the costs and- importantly- you have NO WARRANTY on any of the work done.


N63 V8s are ticking time bombs. Although I am sure you will have a handful post in the thread on how their's has been perfect.


Finally, you sure bang covers that car?

[n64456]

According to the settlement, the X6 thru 2014 is covered.

Looking at the FAQs from the settlement; a vehicle with less than 70k miles that needs the engine replaced, the owner portion is 15%. Thats better than 100%... That's if they decide NOT to do the repairs (ie, valve seal replacement, turbo and turbo line replacement, etc...), then the repairs are covered at no charge to the owner.

https://bangclasssettlement.com/Comm...sked-Questions

I've found plenty of messages over on the bimmerpost 5,6,and 7 series sections on this settlement; but nothing here.

Why was your first response "lol"?

Do you own a BMW repair facility?

Are you a BMW certified mechanic?

I've read many of your comments and replies to numerous members on this site. Why are all your replies to honest good faith questions dripping with snark and condescension?

You posted that you have a graduate degree (or were a grad student 35 years ago); is that how you respond to everyone you encounter? Or, is it just how all you Californians act towards others? Asking for a friend...

[josiahg52]

Lol

Because the settlement is a complete joke. The engine is a piece of crap and all they want is for you to limp across the finish line even with a half-functioning engine until they have no legal obligation to do anything, wash their hands and toss you aside. You're an idiot to even consider buying one.

[Sophisticated Redneck]

Originally Posted by n64456

How many members have gotten satisfaction from this settlement?

https://bangclasssettlement.com/Home/portalid/0

Does this make buying a vehicle with the 1st gen N63 engine less of a gamble?

I'm looking at a 60,000 mile 2014 X6 with this engine, and this seems to make me breathe a bit easier. Carfax doesn't list the CCP being done on it; and it was maintained at a local BMW dealer. I'm going to call that dealer with the VIN and see whats been done to it regarding the CCP. Service records shows about 10K miles between documented oil changes.

For some reason the search function on this page keeps dropping the "N63" part of my search queries; and I couldn't pull anything up using the search function.

Are you sure it has the N63 and not the N63TU? 2014 was a mixed year where they started to phase in the updated TU version.

If you buy it just make sure you have one hell of a warranty or you are good with a wrench. When they are running right, nothing else compares...well except for the S63 of course

[n64456]

Originally Posted by Sophisticated Redneck

Are you sure it has the N63 and not the N63TU? 2014 was a mixed year where they started to phase in the updated TU version.

If you buy it just make sure you have one hell of a warranty or you are good with a wrench. When they are running right, nothing else compares...well except for the S63 of course

Yeah, I've seen some conflicting info online; and thought at first it might have the N63TU engine since it only listed the N63 in the E71 X6 up to 2013. But, apparently it lumped the E71 X6 in with the E70 X5. E70 production runs from 2007-2013, E71 runs 2008-2014. Also, looking at other 2014 X6 engine pics online shows the black engine covers which indicates the N63. But TBH, I haven't seen the actual engine bay of this particular car, so it very well may have the TU motor but I doubt it. That would be too easy...

I'm great with a wrench; have done all my own mechanical work on the E39, E60, and E70; except for electronics/system diagnostics/coding crap.

[Sophisticated Redneck]

I would grab it then. Worst thing that could happen is you need to do the valve stem seals yourself if it's not covered(Approx 40 hours labor + special tool rental, will cost you around 500 total between parts and tool rental fees). I'm doing mine right now, porting and polishing the heads too and de-carbonizing everything.

I reccomend you immediately replace the coils and plugs and check all crank case vent tubes for leaks just as preventative maintenance. Also check the condition of the turbo coolant lines

It's actually not bad to work on, just very labor intensive. Overall I like working on a hotvee setup vs traditional. Sooo nice the turbos being up top and not buried down below.

[n64456]

I've already looked at some YT videos of valve seal swaps; and you're right. Not terribly difficult, but requires meticulousness. I agree that replacement of all the plastic parts and cooling lines near those turbos would be almost a given. Who did you rent the tool kit from? How long is the rental time frame?

What about carbon buildup on the intakes? Is that an issue with these motors, like they are with the DI N54/55?

[Sophisticated Redneck]

I think the carbon buildup is worse, the CCV system in the n63 is an absolute joke. I ended up installing catch cans. The really difficult this is while the turbos and exhaust are a breeze to work on, it's the opposite with the lower intakes since this is a reverse flow engine. It is impossible to remove the lower intakes to get access to valves without pulling the engine or removing the heads with the intakes attached while it's in car like I did. I don't have a lift so didn't have a choice and when I saw how badly pitted the exhaust valves (150k on the clock, and when I got mine the turbo return lines were nearly blocked so it was burning excessive oil that helped with pitting the exhaust vavles)were on a borsecope, I knew I had to pull the heads anyway....that later tunred into a full port and polish job.... I got mine off eBay from Midwest tool. They have been amazing to work with. 299 rental plus 800 deposit for two weeks, only 70 dollars a week to extend it. I'll be returning mine in about a week (had it for months due to work and life interference)