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There will be no M version of E70! Just "iS" with 400+hp V8 turbo - coming later, not at launch (December 2006). Press release with first info and pics coming in July / August. E53 production ends in September, E70 production starts in October.
The latest news report says that there will be an ///M version of E70. And Professor Ulrich Bruhnke, president of BMW’s M division has confirmed it.

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BMW executives have confirmed that an M version of the X5 is on the cards but, we’re told, there won’t be a current series M1.


An M version of the next BMW X5 is highly likely, while an M version of the current 1 Series is highly unlikely. But a manual M5's a definite ... at least for the US.

In Portugal last week for the international launch of the Z4M Coupe, president of BMW’s M division, Professor Ulrich Bruhnke said no decision to build an M version of the X5 had yet been made but the project was under development.

Prof Bruhnke said that all M projects put to the BMW board for approval needed to go through a four-step process: from the original idea, development of that idea, a business case and, if approved, the building of a prototype.

In the case of an M version of the X5, “We are at step two,” Prof Bruhnke said.

He said he’d test driven a prototype X5 built by the M division “five or six years ago”, and been impressed. Former F1 driver and sometime M division test driver Hans Stuck had also been impressed after lapping the benchmark Nurburgring north circuit in 7m 49s.

With the second generation X5 due for its northern hemisphere debut late this year – and spy photographs of the vehicle already appearing on the internet (no, we can’t yet show you pics here) – an M version of the current car’s obviously not going to happen. But Prof Bruhnke was bullish about an M version of the next X5 which, he said, some markets were expecting.

To illustrate his point, Prof Bruhnke used a colourful example. “The Arabs went with camels into the desert to make decisions,” he said. “Now they go in X5s and Cayennes.” If BMW wanted to be competitive against the likes of the recently launched Cayenne Turbo S, he said, it needed an M version of the X5.
Where the current range-topping X5 4.8is offers 265kW and 500Nm, the Cayenne Turbo S delivers 383kW and 720Nm. Obviously, though still well shy of the turbo Cayenne’s massive torque figure, the M5 V10’s 373kW and 520Nm in an M Car X5 would be closer to the mark.

For obvious reasons, we’d say BMW would have a fight on its hands with Mazda if it followed current M car naming procedure and called the car the MX5.

Prof Bruhnke said the next M car would be the M6 convertible, due “…in a few months”. “Others would follow,” he said.

“We have some gaps in the M car lineup,” Prof Bruhnke said. But it was difficult to make a business case for an M version of the 1 series. “We’d need to invest almost as much as an M3,” he said. Another BMW executive at the launch later confirmed that there wouldn’t be an M1 version of the current generation 1 Series. “The 130i has enough power,” he said.

In other M news, Prof Bruhnke said BMW would soon offer a manual version of the M5 in the US. Although the car has been criticised in some circles for being overly complicated in its current sequential transmission form, Prof Bruhnke said the decision to offer a manual M5 had been made because, “Owners want to show that they can handle a manual gearchange”.

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i seriously dont think the new X5 will have the V10. Its just not suited for a SUV. I think its definately getting the new twinturbo 4.4 V8 thats coming out in 2006. It will have alot more torque lower redline same hp and better gas mileage. It would be perfectly suited to a X5
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i seriously dont think the new X5 will have the V10. Its just not suited for a SUV....
I think the new E70 will have a V12 And I hope so for 3.5 twin turbo diesel engine
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I think the new E70 will have a V12 And I hope so for 3.5 twin turbo diesel engine
No way! It should have a turbocharged V8. Perhaps a 5L or higher displacement. Benz is using a V8 in their upcoming ML63 AMG. The Cayenne Turbo and Turbo S also use a turbocharged V8. It's only logical for BMW to follow.

However you'll probably be paying throug the roof for gas if you have a 500hp engine inside a 2200KG car. Especially if you're just driving around the city to get milk. Hahahaha

By the way, did you hear the sirens yesterday (June 2) at 12PM? What the hell was that? I asked the taxi driver, and he said it had something to do with Levski. I'm assuming Vasil Levski? Every car stopped and turned off its engines. There were 10 sirens in total, and they sounded like something from WW2 when bombs are dropping...
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No way! It should have a turbocharged V8. Perhaps a 5L or higher displacement. Benz is using a V8 in their upcoming ML63 AMG. The Cayenne Turbo and Turbo S also use a turbocharged V8. It's only logical for BMW to follow.


By the way, did you hear the sirens yesterday (June 2) at 12PM? What the hell was that? I asked the taxi driver, and he said it had something to do with Levski. I'm assuming Vasil Levski? Every car stopped and turned off its engines. There were 10 sirens in total, and they sounded like something from WW2 when bombs are dropping...
It's sounds logic

What sirens in Toronto,Canada my Bulgarian friend ?!
June 2 it's a Hristo Botev Day (He is Bulgarian revolutionary) not Vasil Levski...
In That way we honor the bulgarians who died for their freedom and for freedom of Bulgaria...
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It's sounds logic

What sirens in Toronto,Canada my Bulgarian friend ?!
June 2 it's a Hristo Botev Day (He is Bulgarian revolutionary) not Vasil Levski...
In That way we honor the bulgarians who died for their freedom and for freedom of Bulgaria...
As sum v Sofia za dva meseza na vakanziq. Thanks for the explanation.
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As sum v Sofia za dva meseza na vakanziq. Thanks for the explanation.
Heh qka vakanciq shte da e za 2 meseca Kam Varna nqmash li put
Do you know for bulgarian BMW forum ?!
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My first feelings are disappointment.Current looks better and all of the rivals are nicer.I hope the real wont look like that.
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I don't know of any BG based forums unfortunately. Naturally I'll visit Varna. I'm still looking out for prices for a good hotel at Zlatni Pqsazi. But of couse you gotta call in as a BG citizen, else the prices are double for you.

I'm still doing renovation of the place here, so I'm tied up. Plus the sea water ain't warm enough yet.

Everyone here drives either an X5 4.8is or an X5 3.0d. There are no X5 3.0i or X5 4.4i on the roads at all. But out of all the premium SUVs, it seems in Sofia that the X5 is the least popular. Oh well I guess the mafia got bored, and wanted to try other things.

I've seen a couple of VW Touareg V10 TDIs. Nobody can deny that THIS is an engine to have. Stupendous power I tell you!
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