Is there any sign of a SIB for Excessive Battery Discharge?

[apw2607]

hahaha.

Sorry March 2009.

[X5 Meister]

Yep, you are correct.

MODEL-CDMA (VERIZON WIRELESS)
E60, E61 (5 Series) from SOP to 3/08
E63, E64 (6 Series) from SOP to 3/08
E65, E66 (7 Series) from 3/05 production
E70 (X5) vehicles equipped with ZPP (Premium Package) or SA639 (BMW Assist) from SOP to 4/08
E71 (X6) vehicles equipped with ZPP (Premium Package) or SA639 (BMW Assist) from SOP to 4/08
E82, E88 (1 Series) vehicles equipped with ZPP (Premium Package) or SA639 (BMW Assist) from SOP to 3/08
E90, E91, E92, E93 (3 Series) vehicles equipped with ZPP (Premium Package) or SA639 (BMW Assist) from SOP to 3/08

MODEL-GSM (AT&T WIRELESS)
E60, E61 (5 Series) from 3/08
E63, E64 (6 Series) from 3/08
E70 (X5) vehicles equipped with ZPP (Premium Package) or SA639 (BMW Assist) from 4/08
E71 (X6) vehicles equipped with ZPP (Premium Package) or SA639 (BMW Assist) from 4/08
E82, E88 (1 Series) vehicles equipped with ZPP (Premium Package) or SA639 (BMW Assist) from 3/08
E90, E91, E92, E93 (3 Series) vehicles equipped with ZPP (Premium Package) or SA639 (BMW Assist) from 3/08

Originally Posted by Craig

Verizon is CDMA and BMW uses GSM in the X5...

Craig

[RedRockin]

Meister,
Trying to understand your point. Both these lists are the same. THe X5 is not transmitting and receiving Assist/SOS on both CDMA and GSM simultaneously. So far, beyond my dealer, all points to GSM exclusively. Certainly the BT can handle either but that has nothing to do with the Assist/SOS (vehicle's internal phone). Please clarify your point and share your source. Thanks.

[FunfDreisig]

Originally Posted by RedRockin

Meister,
Trying to understand your point. Both these lists are the same....

Read the lists more carefully. The CDMA listings are from SOP to some date and the GSM listings are from that date forward. For example, E70s built before 4/08 use CDMA and those built after 4/08 use GSM.

Funf Dreisig

[X5 Meister]

RedRockin - I was replying to your earlier post and backing up what you said. I cut that info out of a BMW SIB. You are not reading it correctly; see FunfDreisig's note.

[RedRockin]

Thanks guys. My bad. Saw the SOP as the only difference. I am not afraid to admit when I do not know something and here it is! Didn't know "SOP"!

[emcman]

A couple of things. My X5 4.8 is still in the shop since Feb 8th for a parasitic battery drain. It has nothing to do with drive time or Bluetooth or anything else. They do not know what it is and so far as a result can not fix it.

They do not have a good opinion of forums or people that post on them. They know just enough to be dangerous but do not know enough to offer anything really.
This is from the shop foreman who with BMWNA can not figure the issue with my SUV.

In my case I ran out of SIBs to send. The SUV is still there and BMW refused any trade assist help so it is the final option.

Bottom line if you are killing batteries and your auto is dying it does not mean you are doing anything wrong.

[X5 Meister]

I love statements like these. God forbid the customer educate themselves a little bit in order to better understand the problem. I assume that when they go so a doctor they also walk in completely stupid and blind as well. I cannot even begin to count how many times over the years I've told a BMW dealer they are flat out 100% completely wrong about something

Unlike the dealer, people on this board are trying to understand the problem and suggest a fix without having touched or even seen the actual car. If they are so brilliant then tell them to fix the damn car, otherwise go f-off with their stupid opinions.

Originally Posted by emcman

They do not have a good opinion of forums or people that post on them. They know just enough to be dangerous but do not know enough to offer anything really.
This is from the shop foreman who with BMWNA can not figure the issue with my SUV.

[motordavid]

OT:

Originally Posted by emcman

...
They do not have a good opinion of forums or people that post on them. They know just enough to be dangerous but do not know enough to offer anything really.
This is from the shop foreman who with BMWNA can not figure the issue with my SUV. ...

I haven't been near a dlr for "service" since the oe warranty/1 yr extended maintenance ran out in '06, but every BMW SA I ever dealt with,
said/felt the same.

This was back in the RoadToad Days, ('01, on), and the amount of serious azz X tech & help info wasn't common on forums, yet.
But, even then there was enough good info from knowledgeable posters that allowed for us to offer suggestions, when all else failed.
I was always met with disdain, like I was getting this "mis-information" from a comic book...

I suspect for many SAs, it's a freakin job, and many probably punch out, go home, and seldom peruse these kinds of very informative forums.
And, they are chained to the corporate fix-it, company line, imo...

emcman, Good Luck with your parasitic drain fix; I smell a buyback or, a Lemon Law deal.
GL, mD

[emcman]

Originally Posted by motordavid

OT:


emcman, Good Luck with your parasitic drain fix; I smell a buyback or, a Lemon Law deal.
GL, mD

Actually the BMW NA customer miss service rep said yesterday that I do not qualify. This was in the same breath as telling me they were still working on the issue for 5 weeks now and can not track it down. This is with the entire BMW brain trust working on it not just the dealer.

I do as of today have an attorney on it. I really do not get the "we know it is a problem but it is your problem attitude" Oh well we shall see.