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Old 12-26-2008, 05:16 PM
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Red face Test drove a X5 Diesel xDrive35 12/26

I went to my local St. Louis dealer today (12/26) for a test drive of the new X5 Diesel. I've owned some old diesels in the past (a Mercedes 240D and then a 300 Turbo Diesel).

Compared to those old generation diesels, this is a leapfrog in technology!

My first concern was going to be the noise factor. When the salesman pulled up in the demo car, I could hear that it was a diesel, but it certainly wasn't obnoxious. Inside the car, with air and stereo off, I really couldn't hear it. Even with accelerations, it just sounds like a throaty gas engine. Very good thus far!

Acceleration: Excellent. Much better than the gas version 3.0L. Feels like the engine has power to spare. With regards to the turbo, there is only a slight lag/spool time out of a red light. At highway speeds, I really didn't notice a lag at all. This car can push you back in your seat. That is impressive given the weight of this SUV!

Smoke: I didn't notice any. Even with brisk acceleration. My old 300D use to put out a plume of black smoke whenever the turbo kicked in!

I must say I am very impressed with this engine. Diesel costs about 35 cents more than premium currently here in Missouri. So if I have a roughly 20 gallon tank, it would cost me about $7 extra per fill up. I am not a heavy driver. I go through about 500 gallons per year (10,000 miles/20 miles per gallon) -- so my extra cost for fuel would be about $175 per year. Even if the premium to diesel spread doubles to 70 cents per gallon, then my extra cost would be $350 annually. I think I can justify that cost (plus the extra up front cost) for this engine.

Hmmm....
My two remaining questions are 1). will this car qualify for 0.9 or 3.9% financing at some point? The current financing deals expire 1/2/09 and then I expect new deals to be announced. 2). when will the i-Drive be updated? MY2010 or March '09?

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Old 12-26-2008, 05:38 PM
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I went to my local St. Louis dealer today (12/26) for a test drive of the new X5 Diesel. I've owned some old diesels in the past (a Mercedes 240D and then a 300 Turbo Diesel).

Compared to those old generation diesels, this is a leapfrog in technology!

My first concern was going to be the noise factor. When the salesman pulled up in the demo car, I could hear that it was a diesel, but it certainly wasn't obnoxious. Inside the car, with air and stereo off, I really couldn't hear it. Even with accelerations, it just sounds like a throaty gas engine. Very good thus far!

Acceleration: Excellent. Much better than the gas version 3.0L. Feels like the engine has power to spare. With regards to the turbo, there is only a slight lag/spool time out of a red light. At highway speeds, I really didn't notice a lag at all. This car can push you back in your seat. That is impressive given the weight of this SUV!

Smoke: I didn't notice any. Even with brisk acceleration. My old 300D use to put out a plume of black smoke whenever the turbo kicked in!

I must say I am very impressed with this engine. Diesel costs about 35 cents more than premium currently here in Missouri. So if I have a roughly 20 gallon tank, it would cost me about $7 extra per fill up. I am not a heavy driver. I go through about 500 gallons per year (10,000 miles/20 miles per gallon) -- so my extra cost for fuel would be about $175 per year. Even if the premium to diesel spread doubles to 70 cents per gallon, then my extra cost would be $350 annually. I think I can justify that cost (plus the extra up front cost) for this engine.

Hmmm....
My two remaining questions are 1). will this car qualify for 0.9 or 3.9% financing at some point? The current financing deals expire 1/2/09 and then I expect new deals to be announced. 2). when will the i-Drive be updated? MY2010 or March '09?

--Paul
St Louis, MO
Right now, I've heard the diesel doesn't qualify for .9%. My diesel is over at Plaza and I'm picking it up next Friday. Which dealer did you go to?

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I went to Plaza Motors also. I sent you a private email. Check there if you don't mind.

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Old 12-26-2008, 10:30 PM
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I went to Plaza Motors also. I sent you a private email. Check there if you don't mind.

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I just sent you a PM...

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Old 12-27-2008, 09:17 AM
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Craig, I wonder if he test drove your vehicle??
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Old 12-27-2008, 09:27 AM
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I don't think so. They have 3 in stock ready to sell listed on their inventory board in the main showroom. I don't think privately ordered autos would appear on that board.

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Old 12-27-2008, 10:25 AM
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If you add the diesel emissions fluid (adblue) fill-up cost, that can be hundred of dollars once or twice a year.

Case you forgotten, there is a big tank full of urea in the back of the diesel machines to clean up the exhaust that needs to be replenished.

So at the end of the day, not really cost effective IMHO, and also doubt that it's very environmentally friendly either.

Great efficient engines though...
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Old 12-27-2008, 12:06 PM
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The fluid is free for 4 years 50,000 miles. My car wasn't up on that board when I was there Tuesday. I don't think Paul was driving my car around. Mine had 8.1 miles on it and I told them not to let people drive it. The fluid only needs to be filled or flushed once a year, or every 11,000 miles. It puts out 20% less emissions than the gasoline motors. I coudln't smell anything when I smelled the exhaust.

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Old 12-27-2008, 12:23 PM
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The fluid is free for 4 years 50,000 miles. My car wasn't up on that board when I was there Tuesday. I don't think Paul was driving my car around. Mine had 8.1 miles on it and I told them not to let people drive it. The fluid only needs to be filled or flushed once a year, or every 11,000 miles. It puts out 20% less emissions than the gasoline motors. I coudln't smell anything when I smelled the exhaust.

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WOw, free refill sounds good. but does driving style matter at all? I like to free part but not so convinced about every 11000 miles on the dot. I mean what if you run out of the fluid, or you are in the middle of nowhere before you have a chance to visit the dealer to refill it??

about 20% less emissions would you please elaborate on that, is it the CO2 per mile driven or something like that?
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