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Old 01-31-2009, 01:24 PM
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is diesel really worth it?

if you compare a 3.0d with a 3.0 petrol, is it really worth it?

considering that today the price of diesel is around 20% more....
and generally , at least in the UK you get taxed more for diesels...

so is it worth it????

or is the difference so small it really doesnt matter anymore??

i know if 4.4 petrol is more expensive to run than a 3.0d, but im talking about similar sized engines...
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:36 PM
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a recent article in Roundel suggested a 335d vs a 335 would need 65k miles and a tax credit of $900 to break even. you really need to keep a diesel for an extended period of time to gain any benefit.

the other thing to consider would be the performance gain provided by the 3.0d vs. 3.0 gasser. it's all about the torque.
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:40 PM
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a recent article in Roundel suggested a 335d vs a 335 would need 65k miles and a tax credit of $900 to break even. you really need to keep a diesel for an extended period of time to gain any benefit.

the other thing to consider would be the performance gain provided by the 3.0d vs. 3.0 gasser. it's all about the torque.
U.S. diesel has a 1550.00 IRS tax credit for alternative fuel vehicle...

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I was told and have heard about the $1550 credit but have been unable to find any information specific to the 35d either on the IRS or EPA website. Anybody know how to confirm this?
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I was told and have heard about the $1550 credit but have been unable to find any information specific to the 35d either on the IRS or EPA website. Anybody know how to confirm this?
IRS Form 8910 (when available) will provide the details. It's not available in final or draft form at the moment.

http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8910.pdf

The post above is correct in that there will be a phase down of credit as your adjusted gross income goes up.. If I remember correctly from 2007's form, > $175K'ish, no credit at all.

Interesting to note that For Toyota and Lexus vehicles, no credit is allowed for 2008.

Other related links:

http://www.irs.gov/publications/p17/...blink100035228
http://www.irs.gov/newsroom/article/...7557%2C00.html
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Old 01-31-2009, 01:39 PM
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Where I'm located in the U.S., diesel is only ten cents more per gallon than premium unleaded. I figured my mileage on my last trip 90% highway @ 80 MPH 24 MPG.

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Folks the 1550 credit works only for certain pay scales to which I would imagine most people in this forum will not qualify IMHO
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Where i live in MA, Diesel is between 0.75 to $1 over the premiere gas.. and could not see how it could break even and the benefit of it.
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Where i live in MA, Diesel is between 0.75 to $1 over the premiere gas.. and could not see how it could break even and the benefit of it.
I live in Missouri, not MA...

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You try trading a petrol in in the UK and you will find a Derv engine is the best, also the exra torque suits any vehicle over 1.5 tonnes, the new petrols may be best for small cars but larger ones Derv wiil rule. Get a 3.0sd ad you will find out.
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