Winter driving

[XXX555]

You cannot lock the differentials on this AWD system. I think that is what the other poster meant when he said not true 4WD, like the guys in the Jeep CJ's get a chubby over...

[motordavid]

Back at the Sliding Off the Road Ranch, if the OP has not driven in snow/winter conditions, on curvy,
off camber, slick roads, I wish him good luck, regardless of what car/tire combo he rents.
GL,mD

[Destination: Moon]

Originally Posted by XXX555

You cannot lock the differentials on this AWD system. I think that is what the other poster meant when he said not true 4WD, like the guys in the Jeep CJ's get a chubby over...

He said it was not true AWD which confused me.... I've never owned a 4WD but lots of AWD. The rule to driving in snow is let the AWD and snow tires give you a safety cushion. This means taking it slow and easy. Lots of folks get all the advantages of this equipment and eliminate the added safety by driving too fast. Thinking the car / tires can go faster. I have heard it called "compensating behavior". It effectively eliminates all the extra margin you should otherwise have..... I call these people: morons!

I have seen 4wd trucks and AWD cars wiz past me on empty roads going way too fast. Running OEM all-seasons. I know they are not better equipped than me with 4 studdless snows, anti-lock brakes and AWD. Seen many of them off the side of the road a few miles on. MORONS!

[brian5]

Originally Posted by meruyailir

I'm planning on going to the US this December with my family and going on a road trip to Yosemite and/or Lake Tahoe. Am I required to put on tire chains on an AWD SUV like X5? It's got traction control as well.

Yes, I was at Lake Tahoe in a AWD SUV and I HAD to put on tire chains. What a nightmare that was! There were no "helpers" around when I needed to install them so I got out there in the snow and slush to do it myself. As far as I could tell, I installed them perfectly and tight --- but the noise that they made was unbelievable.

[blktoptrvl]

Originally Posted by motordavid

Back at the Sliding Off the Road Ranch, if the OP has not driven in snow/winter conditions, on curvy,
off camber, slick roads, I wish him good luck, regardless of what car/tire combo he rents.
GL,mD

Especially on mountain roads.

[blktoptrvl]

Originally Posted by SamS

Your going to need snow tires if you want good grip on snow. X5 handles nicely on snow roads with winter tires, don't know about deep snow though... Remember its not really an AWD car. Snow and Slum Mud can push the limit of traction on normal tyres on an X5, no matter how sophisticated DTC is.

Slum mud?

[burnin m]

Ummm no. To all the previous replies. For 99% of the snow storms on the major highways to and from Lake Tahoe & Yosemite, having 4x4/All Wheel Drive, you will NOT need chains.

I've been up and down every year 4-5 times a year, in the worst storms. I have the 20" wheels, and have Toyo Proxies M&S. Of all the times up and down, the only time I EVER had any trouble, was with some ice on the way home. Was sooo slick, after coming to a stop, the X5 would just start sliding. So that is the ONLY time I've ever had the slightest of issues with big, fat, wide tires on the X5. And I've driven it in snow well past the bumper, say 18-24".

So, you should be just fine. Now, if you live in Lake Tahoe, or Yosemite, or Montana, Colorado whatever, then, yes, get some 18" wheels with some Bridgestone Blizzaks.

I'm personally going to pick up some 19's with Blizzaks just because I want to pull the big Ford's out of the snow :-).

[rh71]

^ good to know of the Proxes abilities. I'm actually getting ST IIs this week to replace the STs. All-seasons are good - good enough.

[AzNMpower32]

Originally Posted by motordavid

Back at the Sliding Off the Road Ranch, if the OP has not driven in snow/winter conditions, on curvy,
off camber, slick roads, I wish him good luck, regardless of what car/tire combo he rents.
GL,mD

Folks here in Central Bumf*ck can't drive in the rain. Wheelspin at every stop sign . If there were any more folks living here there'd be fender benders all the time.

[socalrancher]

Ummm no. To all the previous replies. For 99% of the snow storms on the major highways to and from Lake Tahoe & Yosemite, having 4x4/All Wheel Drive, you will NOT need chains.

glad that you have not run into the problem. I was forced to put on chains last year on the 80 going up the hill because DOT said I did not have dedicated snow tires only S/M all season. I did have the chains and put them on. I do not think that I needed them but could not proceed unless installed.

One thing to remember when putting them on is that they only go on the rear tires. Also need to turn the DSC off and go with DTC only ( pages 97 and 257 of 2009 Manual). did not have any issues with chains on in the recommended setup and the roads were covered with packed snow and some powder.