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[TRAINER]

Originally Posted by rcasey

One can not help but observe; Trainer posted a message that started this thread and after realizing his was being deceitful, he removed the message. As the saying goes, he was "Hoisted by his own petard".

Trainer knew that BMW would question the fact that a bulb that exceeded the specification was still in the light housing when he meant to remove the bulb and hide his deceit.

When questioned about using a higher wattage bulb, he said "nope" and his untruthfulness was soon outed.

With some luck BMW will not cover Trainer's misdeed, and you and I will not have to help absorb BMW's costs.

One can only wonder, does Trainer's field of expertise extend to teaching Business Ethics?

The bulb that is currently in the car is well within the specifications required by BMW.
The question ARD asked was if I raised the wattage on the bulbs – assumed that was currently in the car at the time of this defect – and again my answer was – nope. No one was “outed” and I find that incredibly offensive, along with your character assaults. YOU are the one that must stand corrected.
Personally I don't see how that old bulb that was in for a very short time, 3 weeks, could have caused this problem now. I could be wrong but I doubt it in this case.
Absorb my costs? Really? Are we talking about health care or BMW’s?
I just love these internet tuff guys, hiding behind their keyboards in the safety of their homes who sit back and type whatever comes to mind.
Accusations, personal attacks, character assaults, incorrect information..
All completely unnecessary and uncalled for.
Hey, the next time you’re in the NYC area let me know, we can discuss this further – would love to meet you, Dick.. That is your name, correct?

[Naz24]

Originally Posted by TRAINER

The bulb that is currently in the car is well within the specifications required by BMW.
The question ARD asked was if I raised the wattage on the bulbs – assumed that was currently in the car at the time of this defect – and again my answer was – nope. No one was “outed” and I find that incredibly offensive, along with your character assaults. YOU are the one that must stand corrected.
Personally I don't see how that old bulb that was in for a very short time, 3 weeks, could have caused this problem now. I could be wrong but I doubt it in this case.
Absorb my costs? Really? Are we talking about health care or BMW’s?
I just love these internet tuff guys, hiding behind their keyboards in the safety of their homes who sit back and type whatever comes to mind.
Accusations, personal attacks, character assaults, incorrect information..
All completely unnecessary and uncalled for.
Hey, the next time you’re in the NYC area let me know, we can discuss this further – would love to meet you, Dick.. That is your name, correct?

Owned him!! Nicely put trainer.

I'm with trainer on this one. I don't see how a different bulb could cause this. So many of us change our bulbs and not one has experienced this. Clearly a defect in the housing.

[Richard in NC]

Irregardless of which "side" we are on, it's the dealer service that holds the cards, If they know you had an aftermarket bulb in there, whether or not it caused the problem, you'll not likely get it covered. Such is life, and the risk one takes with aftermarket stuff.

[ard]

Please. This is pretty silly.

Trainer posted, thought better of it. Wisely.

NOBODY can make a definitive diagnosis of causality- not me, not BMW not Trainer...
I'll argue to death an issue that has an underlying truth, but this one cannot be proven, so why waste our efforts?

Personally I could pick either side and make an argument... and because of that lets let Trainer first see what BMW says.

[TRAINER]

Every service tech is already on my side and I have a very good relationship with the service mgr, I'm not concerned one bit.

[JCL]

Why did you delete your first post and thread title?

It is a little like looking at the aftermath of a train wreck, and not being able to see what caused the derailment.

[TRAINER]

I'll be picking up my X this afternoon with the new headlight assembly. Meanwhile I'll be enjoying the loaner convertible. There were no issues. Only question was if it's ever been in the body shop.

[Penguin]

Originally Posted by JCL

Why did you delete your first post and thread title?
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I'm also a bit curious about that...

[tonypap]

Originally Posted by TRAINER

I'll be picking up my X this afternoon with the new headlight assembly. Meanwhile I'll be enjoying the loaner convertible. There were no issues. Only question was if it's ever been in the body shop.

Now you gotta make sure the other ones falls off too...can't have one new and one old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jeremym]

OP: Glad it's being taken care of.

However....you just made a comment about internet tough guys hiding behind their computers yet you also made a threat (sort of) to Richard in NC inviting him to "speak" in person next time he's in NYC. Isn't that kind of internet tough guyish? You and I both know you'll most likely never meet the guy in person. What's the point of making childish remarks like that - over a damn headlight? Really? Just be the bigger man, take a deep breath and move on with life. People have their opinions and they're entitled to them. If you don't like what one person has to say then just ignore them. That's the beauty of America. You're free to ignore anyone you please. Even Police. Unfortunately, ignoring cops can come at a shitty consequence.

Regardless, I'm in White Plains and frequent the city a lot. Would you have said the same thing to me if I shared Richard's opinion and my name here was Jeremy in NY? Seems kind of dumb and against the board's motto; "Come for the information. Stay for the friendships."

Just my two cents. Not that you asked


Edit: I meant rcasey above; not Richard in NC.