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Old 09-01-2018, 11:31 AM
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Is 2 Tonne bottle jack enough for tire change?

Looking to buy a bottle jack to have in the car.
Don’t have space for a large jack

Is 2 tonne enough? Can the jack slip off?
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Old 09-02-2018, 03:50 PM
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In my humble opinion, as the loaded vehicle is about 6000 lbs, ie 3 ton, if you only plan on picking up one corner at a time, 2 ton should be adequate.

Be careful where you put the jack, have it on solid level surface and block opposite wheel, the chance of slippage is minimized.

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Old 09-06-2018, 03:34 PM
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Looking to buy a bottle jack to have in the car.
Don’t have space for a large jack
Is 2 tonne enough? Can the jack slip off?
Re. 2 Ton
I think it may be too small - I used to have a 2.5 Ton jack for changing Winter Tires (one corner at a time) and it was seriously at its limit....I bought a 5 Ton and made a lot of difference; now, this was to be used at least 8 times a year (4 tires x 2 times a year). Maybe a bit more capacity will be ideal

Bottle jacks -generally- have a small base and due the height of the X5, it will be extended quite a bit so the chances of tipping -or being on an angle- will be higher. Note also that the JackPoints (Plastic Rectangles) may not fit perfectly with the top of the jack...just food for thought.

If this is for an emergency -one time use- I guess is better than nothing....
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Old 09-07-2018, 12:25 AM
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From a pure weight perspective it’s plenty. Whether or not it’s stable enough depends on the exact jack and conditions.
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Old 09-07-2018, 09:32 AM
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Re. 2 Ton
I think it may be too small - I used to have a 2.5 Ton jack for changing Winter Tires (one corner at a time) and it was seriously at its limit....I bought a 5 Ton and made a lot of difference; now, this was to be used at least 8 times a year (4 tires x 2 times a year). Maybe a bit more capacity will be ideal

Bottle jacks -generally- have a small base and due the height of the X5, it will be extended quite a bit so the chances of tipping -or being on an angle- will be higher. Note also that the JackPoints (Plastic Rectangles) may not fit perfectly with the top of the jack...just food for thought.

If this is for an emergency -one time use- I guess is better than nothing....
Hmmm.. my 3 ton has lifted half the X5 no problem. Either from front jack point or diff.

By the math, 2 ton should be fine, even for half the car. I've never used a bottle jack, but I would not be comfortable with the stability.
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I’ve used bottle jacks to lift various cars/trucks a lot over the years. The basic problems are where to place the jack and how much of the piston will be exposed when you reach the desired height.

The more piston showing, the less stable the jack. I try to limit the exposed piston to a few inches (e.g. 1-3in). This means I need to place the jack under a suspension member, so 100% of the lift goes to raising the wheel/tire.

On my 88 Pathfinder, the suspension bits are steel and it is easy to find a good lift point that won’t damage the suspension. On the X5 35d not so much.

If I can’t use my 3 ton Service Jack and jack stands, I stick to the OEM screw jack. It’s slow and tedious but it has a socket that keeps it stable and hence safer.

FWIW I built a simple wooden plug to place in the jack socket that allows me to place the jack stands directly under the "approved" jack socket.

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Bottle jack is almost as scary as Hi-Lift jack. Not going to consider using one unless it is a companion helper to my floor jack. If you are set on using a bottlejack for the road, I would invest in a travel axle stand as well.


For as often as I have had to "coax" wheels off their hubcentric mounts, jack instability is even more of a concern.
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There is not enough clearance for me to lower the jack from the rear diff. I think BMW suggest using a long arm jack or whatever it's called. So I was looking into getting bottle jacks as well for the rear. However, when I took my car to the mechanic for tire installation and wheel alignments, they positioned the lifts by the suspension.

I may have to try to use a shorter handle or something to turn the jack to lower it. The handle is too long where if I lower it, the rear bumper will come down to the handle. Maybe it's my jack, I can only lower it in the up (vertical position).

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Blt jacks have their use, but not a fan for lifting the X, esp depending on floor service, height required, and stability.

I use floor/trolley jack, and if I have to get under it for any reason after jacking, I use quality jack stands. Even then, it is nervous Nellie...

Edit: In rereading your post, I suspect you are looking for a carry in the car jack. If so, the oe jack in the E53 is barely adequate, though the E70 jack may be 'better'. If you are looking for a jack for roadside tire R&R, I guess the E70 oe jack/wrench will work.

If you are looking for something less cumbersome in trunk, a good mini compressor, tire plugs, needle nose/reamer/inserter will get you down the road. I carry them in our Vette, as it has no spare.

Several threads on jacks, jacking, et al:

-https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/x5-e70-forum/45205-jack-placement-2007-x5.html

- https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/...rear-diff.html

I use the front metal 'bar' for lifting front, and I have always used the rear diff, with a slice of sturdy plywood and keeping lift point only on diff casing housing, not the rear diff itself. Never a problem

-https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/x5-e53-forum/62102-jacking-x5.html

-https://xoutpost.com/bmw-sav-forums/x5-e53-forum/93007-what-kind-jack-do-you-use.html

Brand is up to you. I use an older Larin, a quality jack in its time and it also slips under my Vette.

Pick your poison, and it is all about what you want to do with a jack, and what you want to do when car is lifted.
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This is the simple wooden plug to place in the jack socket that allows me to place the jack stands directly under the "approved" jack socket. The 1/4in steel bar is attached to the wooden plug that fits in the jack socket.


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