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Old 03-16-2014, 12:51 PM
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Worst used vehicles X5

The annual Consumer Reports auto issue is out, and among all of its suggestions for the best vehicles in just about every class is a list of what it says is the worst used cars and trucks you can buy.

Based on a survey of its subscribers, the collection covers vehicles from the past decade that have been reported to have “much-worse-than-average overall reliability” for multiple years.

The list is limited to vehicles with at least three years of data, and specific issues aren’t mentioned.

A few of the vehicles, like the Chevrolet Uplander and Saturn Relay, and the Ford Flex and Lincoln MKT, have many of the same mechanicals despite wearing different brand names, which adds some credence to the poor impressions owners have in this unscientific survey.

Here’s the full list:

BMW X5 (6-cyl)

Chevrolet Cruze (1.8-liter)

Chevrolet Impala

Chevrolet Uplander

Chrysler PT Cruiser (non-turbo)

Chrysler Town & Country

Dodge Caravan

Dodge Grand Caravan

Dodge Journey

Ford Explorer (V6)

Ford F-250 & F-350 (Diesel)

Ford Fiesta

Ford Flex (EcoBoost)

GMC Acadia

Lincoln MKT (EcoBoost)

Mercedes-Benz GL-Class

Mini Cooper S

Mini Countryman

Saturn Outlook

Saturn Relay

Volkswagen Beetle

Volkswagen New Beetle

Volkswagen Touareg
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We own two vehicles on that list
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For BMW and Mercedes is understandable,because they are overly complicated.It is expected to have some failures and glitches in such a complex system with every component interrelated to the others.The rest of the list is just bad engineering and manufacturing.
I's still say 6 cyl X5 is more reliable than V8 (the same statement as above applies),but maybe V8 owners complaint less(like me)
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I had the F250 diesel and was without a doubt a very problem prone
truck. Didn't even keep it one year.

With BMW and other high end vehicles it would seem to be the repair
cost. They depreciate faster than less complicated cars so owning one
past the warranty, can quickly raise a ?, keep it or ditch because of
cost.

If only worth 25K, incur a 8K bill. I would take that 8K and apply
to a new model. Heard this years ago on Cadillac and Lincoln.
After the 2nd owner, car was sliding down into the poorer purchasers
range, generally they could not afford to fix all the bells and whistles. So
the market became limited.
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What is the study based on? Is it # of problems per 100 vehicles?
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Old 03-17-2014, 08:51 AM
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i have no idea how consumer reports is still around...
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i have no idea how consumer reports is still around...
+1.

Back in the mid-'90s, CRs new car issue provided a pic of the Viper and stated the vehicle is SO BAD they REFUSE to test it.

After seeing that liberal/tree hugging mag trash it, I ran out and bought one!
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What is the study based on? Is it # of problems per 100 vehicles?
What ALL surveys have in common is that you can steer the outcome based on the type of questions you ask ...

If you have ever received a CR survey questionnaire, you will understand why the results are typically skewed the way they are. The questions (and answers) are not very insightful and if you skip a couple, the results are lumped into category columns that conform to the space allowed by the editor and publisher ...

... still, it is data and you are free to interpret it any way you want, but by the time you read it, you have spent the money on the issue that CR wanted to sell you!
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I'm actually surprised Audi isn't on the list...especially the Q7
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I'm actually surprised Audi isn't on the list...especially the Q7
agreed... along with the a6. i think ever since the c5 the a6 has been on CR's worst car list.

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The list was compiled by Toyota lovers and drivers. What else should we expect from a rag like CR?

BTW, Toyota recalled over a half million vehicles last year--how did they get a pass?
exactly... back in 2007 they declared the camry the car of the year... what that entails i have no idea but that specific camry was problematic and they recommended with their highly coveted red circle white dot rating. meanwhile that POS has water pump failures, power steering leaks, seat repairs, coil pack issues, leaking shocks, o2 sensors that crap out, etc etc etc.
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