X6 35i VS X6 35d. What should I choose?

[Arslanoff]

X6 xDrive35i - 335i, making 306 horsepower between 5,800rpm and 6250rpm, and a peak torque of 400Nm between 1,400rpm and 5.000rpm;
Cons (l/100km): 14,9 / 8,6 / 10,9; Emission 262; 0–62mph 6.7 Seconds
Price 56.800,–

X6 xDrive35d making 286 horsepower and a peak torque of 580Nm; cons(l/100km): 10,5 / 7,1 / 8,3; Emission 220; 0–62mph - 6.9 Seconds; Price 61.800,–

Everything else is looking the same.

1) I live in Germany, and Diesel car taxes are twice higher here, but I very like torque and low fuel cons rates for diesel, it is worth driving diesel if you drive more then 15000 km/year (I drive about that)
2) X6 xDrive35i is cheaper
3) 0-100 km/sec are almost the same
4) I don't like the diesel engine sound

What should I order, what do you think?

[AzNMpower32]

What is most of your driving? If you do mostly urban drivng, with lower-throttle and less high-speed passing, stick with a diesel. You'll rarely see the top rev range anyways. On the otherhand, if you prefer the electric response and higher revving capabilities because you drive on um, picturesque Bavarian mountain roads or need the top end power to pass, then the petrol version is preferred.

Of course, this doesn't account for price differentials and options that may sway you either way.

[X5Jay]

^ Solid advice. But if I didn't like the sound of my car, I don't know how long I could live with that. Perhaps if you go with the diesel you could upgrade the exhaust system at some point?

[Arslanoff]

Really I dont like sound of diesel on high revs, but I don't know anything about bmw's diesels (I mean that sound) it should be not very loud and the sound resistance inside x6, how loud will it be, concerning tech data I like diesels more, but dont now will I get used to it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvnzzkvfbGE
And another question, guys who drove X5 35d and 35i, what was real consumption of your car?

[Steved]

Arslanoff, did you read my post from a few weeks ago discussing the very same subject?

http://www.x6world.com/x6-e71-e72-fo...d-engines.html

I have finally decided that I will stick with the 35d engine even though I prefer the 35i to drive. The X6 will be a car I use for most of my family journeys, like the 1800 mile journey we did last week to go skiing. In that regard the 35d does everything I need, and will make effortless progress without requiring the auto box to kick-down.

Both engines can be remapped, with the 35d being capable of 340bhp/670NM, whilst the 35i can achieve 390bhp/560Nm.

It is very difficult to re-sell a petrol engined X5 these days, with the 3.0i being almost unsaleable and I'm not sure if the 35i will change that trend. Whilst its great to buy the car that suits your needs, its a real bummer if you struggle to sell it.

That's one of the reasons I sold my ML63 recently, its been great to own but I had to sell it at £30k (42k euros) less than I paid for it 12 months ago. That's a lot of money to loose, but I knew it would be costly when I bought it. Nevertheless, I feel like taking a break from the depreciation game so the 35d will be the safer bet in that regard.

[Steved]

Originally Posted by Arslanoff

And another question, guys who drove X5 35d and 35i, what was real consumption of your car?

I managed between 23 and 24 mpg in the X5 3.0sd (i.e. 35d) that I drove recently. There isn't a 35i engined X5, but I used to average between 18 and 19 mpg in my old X5 3.0i.

[jimi]

Originally Posted by Steved

It is very difficult to re-sell a petrol engined X5 these days, with the 3.0i being almost unsaleable and I'm not sure if the 35i will change that trend.

You are right Steve i think that main reason for choosing 35d instead 35i is that everybody is going crazy about these diesels and only a few people will buy petrol X6.This make sense with x5sd vs x54.8i,but i think that choosing between X635d and X635i is very difficult choice.I dont believe that 35i will spend fuel that much. But majority of people doesnt think so,99% of orders is for diesel engines.
Personaly i cant find anything good in diesel engine,but i order 35d for better reselling and now i cant sleep at night.I think that 35i is better choice but i just dont have enough courage to order it.

[Steved]

The risk is too high to order a 35i without driving one, so I suspect most of the initial orders will be for the 35d. I drove hundreds of miles comparing the 35i and 35d engines in the 3-series, and then driving the 35d engine in the X5 and if you look at each engine as standard then the 35d makes most sense.

The 35d feels more torquey than an X5 4.8i whereas the 35i has considerably less power and torque than an X5 4.8i. The market will therefore view the 35i as being less effortless to drive than the X5 4.8i and 35d, whereas in an SUV you really want as much torque as possible to make effortless progress.

The solution would be to tune the 35i engine which gives it as much power and torque as the x50i will have as standard, however most people will not choose this route hence the 35i will most probably be perceived as the 'slowest' petrol engined version.

The 35d is quite a good diesel engine, although I found it much less appealing than Range Rovers 3.6 TDV8 which has very little diesel rattle and quite a lot of V8 rumble. It's a pity that BMW don't offer a comparable engine, but the 35d sounds at least as nice as the 35i when cruising - its just not as sporty an engine.

[sirees01]

Originally Posted by jimi

You are right Steve i think that main reason for choosing 35d instead 35i is that everybody is going crazy about these diesels and only a few people will buy petrol X6.This make sense with x5sd vs x54.8i,but i think that choosing between X635d and X635i is very difficult choice.I dont believe that 35i will spend fuel that much. But majority of people doesnt think so,99% of orders is for diesel engines.
Personaly i cant find anything good in diesel engine,but i order 35d for better reselling and now i cant sleep at night I think that 35i is better choice but i just dont have enough courage to order it.

Diesel V Petrol is purely down to the amount of mileage driven each year.

My wife drives approx 8000 miles a year.
The financial difference between both types of fuel is £750 p/a

Now for me, you can bag HUGE discounts on petrol models these days which offsets the fuel consumption.

I would say you would have to be driving at least 20,000miles p/a to be financially better off. In terms of driving experience I favour the petrol over diesel any day of the week.

[X5love]

Originally Posted by Arslanoff

X6 xDrive35i - 335i, making 306 horsepower between 5,800rpm and 6250rpm, and a peak torque of 400Nm between 1,400rpm and 5.000rpm;
Cons (l/100km): 14,9 / 8,6 / 10,9; Emission 262; 0–62mph 6.7 Seconds
Price 56.800,–

X6 xDrive35d making 286 horsepower and a peak torque of 580Nm; cons(l/100km): 10,5 / 7,1 / 8,3; Emission 220; 0–62mph - 6.9 Seconds; Price 61.800,–

Everything else is looking the same.

1) I live in Germany, and Diesel car taxes are twice higher here, but I very like torque and low fuel cons rates for diesel, it is worth driving diesel if you drive more then 15000 km/year (I drive about that)
2) X6 xDrive35i is cheaper
3) 0-100 km/sec are almost the same
4) I don't like the diesel engine sound

What should I order, what do you think?

How many years are you planning on keeping the car?

I don't know what diesel prices are like in Germany, but it sounds like its going to take a loooooooooong time to make back that 6,000 Euro premium on the diesel.