Is North America Hating the X6? - Page 4

Low Note · #31 10-15-2009, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by C's Bimmer

I think it's a terrible looking truck. I'm glad I don't see more of them on the road.

First of all, the X6 is not a truck. It may have the same wheelbase (although a wider track) than the X5, but mechanical design is very different. You have every right to think that it looks horrible. But don't trash it as something useless unless you have enough professional driving experience and ability to put the very unusual X6 up against any other 4 wheel drive sports vehicle. Its sort of like me saying that I think that all music by the composer Prokofiev (English spelling) is crap. I don't like most of his music, (except perhaps for his Romeo and Juliet ballet score which I have performed dozens of times), but it is still great music. It's just not to this 40 year career major orchestra musician's taste.. But for me to dismiss his music as unworthy and useless just due to my small personal bias against his idea of musical form and harmonic usage, highlights me as an ignorant and arrogant fool, rather than somewhat who agrees that to many, the music of Sergei Prokofiev is beautiful...just not to my ears.

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Viperfreak2 · #32 10-16-2009, 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Low Note

About your question of how many are being built; I was told by the sales manager at SunMotorCars BMW in Mechanicsburg, PA that only one out of approximately 10 or 12 X vehicles produced in South Carolina plant are X6's. Both X5 and X6 (in all varieties for worldwide distribution) are made on the same production line. I think that BMW has figured that the X6 would be a limited production "niche" vehicle, which has seemed to be an accurate prediction so far. All I can say, is once you drive an X6, the X5 feels much heavier and less agile. Certainly not for everyone, but a very exciting driving machine.

Please do not automatically believe anything with the words 'sales manager' in an automotive job title. Sales of the X6 are great. One out of 10 or 12? HA!

Just ask anyone who has been on a plant tour in the last 6 months what the model mix is. All I can say is: production schedule keeps going ^. Mechanicsburg is not that far from SC, and we are holding the annual Eurofest this weekend. Free entry to see hundreds of new and old Ferraris, BMW's, Rolls, Lambos, MG's, Bentleys, Triumphs etc. This years featured marque is Morgan. Live bands, lots of food. AND plant tours. Come on down!

C's Bimmer · #33 10-16-2009, 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Low Note

First of all, the X6 is not a truck. It may have the same wheelbase (although a wider track) than the X5, but mechanical design is very different. You have every right to think that it looks horrible. But don't trash it as something useless unless you have enough professional driving experience and ability to put the very unusual X6 up against any other 4 wheel drive sports vehicle. Its sort of like me saying that I think that all music by the composer Prokofiev (English spelling) is crap. I don't like most of his music, (except perhaps for his Romeo and Juliet ballet score which I have performed dozens of times), but it is still great music. It's just not to this 40 year career major orchestra musician's taste.. But for me to dismiss his music as unworthy and useless just due to my small personal bias against his idea of musical form and harmonic usage, highlights me as an ignorant and arrogant fool, rather than somewhat who agrees that to many, the music of Sergei Prokofiev is beautiful...just not to my ears.

Hey Beethoven - First off, reread what I wrote. I didn't say it was useless. If it gets you from point A to point B, no vehicle is useless. It's a hideous looking Truck, Car, SAV, SUV, blah, blah, blah. It reminds me of the Pontiac Aztec. I'm glad I don't see more of them on the road. Maybe you should lower the music so you can open up your ears and your eyes.

corima · #34 10-16-2009, 11:08 AM

I think they look awkward standing still, but moving on the road they look very good.

Low Note · #35 10-16-2009, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by C's Bimmer

Hey Beethoven - First off, reread what I wrote. I didn't say it was useless. If it gets you from point A to point B, no vehicle is useless. It's a hideous looking Truck, Car, SAV, SUV, blah, blah, blah. It reminds me of the Pontiac Aztec. I'm glad I don't see more of them on the road. Maybe you should lower the music so you can open up your ears and your eyes.

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I think the 7 and 5 series look hideous, with the Bangle Butt (good that Bangle has left BMW), but some people think they are fantastic. So for you to say, without suggesting that this is only your personal opinion, that the X6 is ugly, etc. is rather small minded and arrogant. I owned my first orange 2002tii BMW back in 1972 before all the 20 somethings were born. That was when it didn't matter that the car looked like a bath tub on wheels. It was amazing. Most people had never heard of BMW except for those of use who were in the know. Now, those of us who were the early adopters of BMW's work are being overrun by people who I personally think have no business driving such a fine machine. Most of them have never been properly trained in driving skills, and they own their BMW's for status. But I won't tell them that they have no right to drive a BMW, just as you have no right to proclaim that the X6 is ugly without stating that is just YOUR opinion, which is certainly valid. And don't call me Beethoven. I am simply a working musician. He was a genius. Bet you didn't know that he wrote his 9th symphony when he was completely deaf. Probably doesn't matter to you, but it sure does to me.

C's Bimmer · #36 10-16-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Low Note

Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder. I think the 7 and 5 series look hideous, with the Bangle Butt (good that Bangle has left BMW), but some people think they are fantastic. So for you to say, without suggesting that this is only your personal opinion, that the X6 is ugly, etc. is rather small minded and arrogant. I owned my first orange 2002tii BMW back in 1972 before all the 20 somethings were born. That was when it didn't matter that the car looked like a bath tub on wheels. It was amazing. Most people had never heard of BMW except for those of use who were in the know. Now, those of us who were the early adopters of BMW's work are being overrun by people who I personally think have no business driving such a fine machine. Most of them have never been properly trained in driving skills, and they own their BMW's for status. But I won't tell them that they have no right to drive a BMW, just as you have no right to proclaim that the X6 is ugly without stating that is just YOUR opinion, which is certainly valid. And don't call me Beethoven. I am simply a working musician. He was a genius. Bet you didn't know that he wrote his 9th symphony when he was completely deaf. Probably doesn't matter to you, but it sure does to me.

Last time I checked, this was an open forum to express your opinion on BMW X models. You're clearly taking things too personally, but I'm not surprised. Lighten up a bit. Thinking the X6 is ugly does not constitute oneself as small minded and arrogant. I've seen multiple companies do modifications to the X6 to make it look better, but I still don't think it works. To me, the lines of the car just don't flow.

Since you're brand new to the board and always talk about how great your driving skills are, I'm going to cut you some slack. For what it's worth, I have been a BMW owner for the last 18 years, have attended countless driving and race schools and enjoy all aspects of BMW. Some models I dislike, others I love. I'm sure you probably figured I was one to fall into your "20's bucket", but you're actually wrong.

Take it easy and welcome to X5World.

Low Note · #37 10-16-2009, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by C's Bimmer

Last time I checked, this was an open forum to express your opinion on BMW X models. You're clearly taking things too personally, but I'm not surprised. Lighten up a bit. Thinking the X6 is ugly does not constitute oneself as small minded and arrogant. I've seen multiple companies do modifications to the X6 to make it look better, but I still don't think it works. To me, the lines of the car just don't flow.

Since you're brand new to the board and always talk about how great your driving skills are, I'm going to cut you some slack. For what it's worth, I have been a BMW owner for the last 18 years, have attended countless driving and race schools and enjoy all aspects of BMW. Some models I dislike, others I love. I'm sure you probably figured I was one to fall into your "20's bucket", but you're actually wrong.

Take it easy and welcome to X5World.

Hi C's Bimmer, and thanks for the message and welcome. I just tried to post a reply, but it didn't go through, so I'll try again. I was too harsh in my criticism of those who dislike the look of the X6. Most of the car mags see it as an answer to a question no one every asked. For our use, it is perfect. Lots of room, and a monster of a vehicle. But after seeing the X6 in different colors, it has become obvious that this machine is very sensitive to color. I originally ordered one in vermillion red, but when I saw one it looked too much like a giant cough drop for my taste. Also saw one in dark blue, gray, and titanium silver, but none of those worked. Made car look too heavy and huge in the rear. But then I saw one in mineral silver (only available on 6 series and X6), and it was totally different. Actually elegant, with flowing lines. Went back to look at it three times in different lighting, and it looked very different every time, but still beautiful. How can a color make such a difference with one particular vehicle? Luckily, we had time to change my order from original red to mineral silver, and I should have my X6 by end of this month.

Just like the original Bangle designs, the X6 is very polarizing among the BMW community. But unlike companies like Lexus and Mercedes, who seem to playing cat and mouse with each other, trying to appease the masses, BMW is coming out with some bold statements that clearly separates them from their competition. In the end, I think that this will be to their benefit (especially in the European market). But as you can see in this forum, the jury is still out.

motex · #38 10-16-2009, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by C's Bimmer

Last time I checked, this was an open forum to express your opinion on BMW X models. You're clearly taking things too personally, but I'm not surprised. Lighten up a bit. Thinking the X6 is ugly does not constitute oneself as small minded and arrogant. I've seen multiple companies do modifications to the X6 to make it look better, but I still don't think it works. To me, the lines of the car just don't flow.

Since you're brand new to the board and always talk about how great your driving skills are, I'm going to cut you some slack. For what it's worth, I have been a BMW owner for the last 18 years, have attended countless driving and race schools and enjoy all aspects of BMW. Some models I dislike, others I love. I'm sure you probably figured I was one to fall into your "20's bucket", but you're actually wrong.

Take it easy and welcome to X5World.

Is your last name Bond or Fitipaldi ?