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Old 02-11-2009, 09:55 AM
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POISoN - suggestions for future changes

Nomad,

First of all let me congratulate you on an excellent piece of software that has restored my interest in BMW nav software and this forum. Brilliant!

I installed your code and 27000 camera locations on top of v31 and 2009-01 without a hitch - worked perfectly first time.
I used the AT&T site to make a .wav of "warning - camera ahead, slow down" with the GB Audrey voice.

http://www.research.att.com/~ttsweb/tts/demo.php

I live in an area of East Berkshire that is covered in cameras and I'm getting warnings far too frequently and too early - often because there's a camera in a side street that I will not go past. Would it be possible to add in a customisable "distance from camera before warnings" to allow adjustment? I guess for motorways you need a few hundred meters but for local streets at 30 mph 50 meters would do.

I'm sure you'll have lots of ideas for this but thought this might be useful. Happy to test future releases if needed

Great piece of software - thanks for this
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Old 02-11-2009, 11:11 AM
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I'd like to add my congratulations as well, and maybe try and answer some of the points raised.

I believe that the aim is to give the driver as much notice as possible so the distances are speed related, so at 30mph it's roughly 300 meters (15 seconds from target) more as the speed goes up, however this has limitations.

Most speed camera detectors give you 15 seconds warning to the camera site.

Limitations:

1: The target area is the total area around the car, not just the road ahead, this is why it picks up side streets and cameras on adjacent roads. Imagine the car at the centre of a big bubble, and the faster you go the bigger the bubble, any target inside the bubble when the nav asks (every 3 seconds, I think) will give the alert, regardless of where on the map it is.

2: Setting it for 50m is not enough at 30mph never mind 70mph, testing was done at 100m, 200m, 300m, and all were not really good enough for travelling at any sort of speed, which is why the speed adaptive distance is used, could this do with a tweak? possibly, this might be a good "user input" field to have, I agree.

3: I believe it is possible to have the alert turned off if travailing under a certain set limit, but as the nav system does not "know" the limit or setting of individual cameras (in the db, it only "knows" long and lat) then this would be an abitary value (eg; 29mph?), again this might be a good "user input" field to have.

Thinking out loud, If you travel in town all day then 28mph may be a good cut off, 65mph for people who use the motorway all day.

4: Stopping or slowing right down inside the target bubble will make the nav re-emit the alert (this is because the car thinks you are setting off again).

5: I think nomad was saying that it may be possible to have the POI alert user turn off/on in the cars menu system, but that it may be problematic to implement, we will have to see if nomad can do it, (he really is very clever, lol).

Things I'd like, but I don't think are possible,

1: Only the front of the car monitored (@90Deg (45 each side)) or only the road ahead (but, see point 1).
2: No alerts when below the set camera speed (but see point 3 above).
3: More than one POI on screen with different alerts.
4: User definable perimeters for the navboot hack.
5: Only 1 alert (ever) per target (regardless of slowing or stopping etc).

We will need to wait and see I think, but we can ask

Nomad: please correct any mistakes I've made or any wrong assumptions. (all mistakes are mine alone)
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:22 PM
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Thinking out loud, If you travel in town all day then 28mph may be a good cut off, 65mph for people who use the motorway all day.
ccfj1 - thanks for the clarification

I'm in the unfortunate position of living in the middle of an estate surrounded by cameras, none of which are on my route out to the main roads. Every time I leave the house I travel at 20 to 25mph for about a mile and half until I reach a B-road. I typcially get about 5 warnings over this part of the journey despite not passing any cameras.

I think an optional 28mph cut-off would be a good idea

Thanks again
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Old 02-11-2009, 01:29 PM
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Of course, the obvious solution now I think about it is to manually remove these cameras from the database before loading since I know where they are !

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Old 02-11-2009, 04:06 PM
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Yes, that's true, I have only the fixed cameras in my DB and run the mobile and redlight as the 2nd POI (no alert).
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Was anything worked out on this? I have 2011 maps and camera warnings go off when the camera is on an adjacent road or cameras ive passed and are behind me etc... Very annoying. My tom-tom only alerts me of cameras in the direction of travel and only for cameras I will pass and not ones in a side street.

If my display didn't turn foreign when I turn alerts off it wouldn't be so bad as I'd only use the alerts when I'm driving in an unknown location, I know the camera locations on my local routes so doesn't need to be on, however it would be nice to have it working the way tom-tom does when I have no idea where I am.
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Was anything worked out on this?
Nomad has dropped off the map, so I doubt any changes will be made now.

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I have 2011 maps and camera warnings go off when the camera is on an adjacent road or cameras ive passed and are behind me etc... Very annoying. My tom-tom only alerts me of cameras in the direction of travel and only for cameras I will pass and not ones in a side street.
It's a limitation of the hack mate, the TT is a dedicated box thats based on brand new technology... the mk4 is based on 12 year old technology, comparing like for like is optimistic.

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If my display didn't turn foreign when I turn alerts off it wouldn't be so bad as I'd only use the alerts when I'm driving in an unknown location,
Recode (with navcoder) your mk4 to have the languages UK, USA and GER, this will fix the problem (if you have used one of my OS updates).
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