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x5GuyInLA 08-03-2006 03:06 PM

Has anyone used this and know whether it works?
 
http://www.myenergycel.com/ I've spoken with a distributor of this product and it appears good...there's even a news report in memphis that validates the claims http://www.memphissound.com/cf/news-report.asp. Wondering if anyone has used this and what results they have seen. thanks in advance.

Quicksilver 08-03-2006 03:26 PM

Now come on. What do you thinK!!! If it sounds too good to be true??????

x5GuyInLA 08-03-2006 03:48 PM

i know the saying, but i'm curious to see if anyone has used it...all the negative reviews i've found have been from people who haven't used it, who subscribe to the "if it's too good to be true..." thought process. I'm skeptical of the positive reviews because anyone can write them, and although the news report seems legit, the news station is in the city where the product is manufactured, so there might be some bias there too. i'm just trying get an honest answer (hopefully i'll find one here) and to keep an open mind to something that could be beneficial.

Quicksilver 08-03-2006 03:53 PM

See if BMW recommends it. If not stear clear of it.

X5Jay 08-03-2006 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by x5GuyInLA
i know the saying, but i'm curious to see if anyone has used it...all the negative reviews i've found have been from people who haven't used it, who subscribe to the "if it's too good to be true..." thought process. I'm skeptical of the positive reviews because anyone can write them, and although the news report seems legit, the news station is in the city where the product is manufactured, so there might be some bias there too. i'm just trying get an honest answer (hopefully i'll find one here) and to keep an open mind to something that could be beneficial.

Why don't you be the first on the board to try it and give us your perspective?

Quicksilver 08-03-2006 04:21 PM

Don't forget to add the magnets. :rofl: :rofl:

JCL 08-03-2006 04:57 PM

Once more with feeling...

While agreeing with the above posters, there are many sources for independent evaluation of these and similar products. A couple of links:


1) The California Energy Commission. Note the subheading of "myths". While they haven't tested this particular one, they have tested several devices consisting of bar magnets mounted around a fuel line, and claiming to impact the molecular structure of the fuel.

http://www.consumerenergycenter.org/...ne_saving.html

2)The Environmental Protection Agency (EPA). Note that the EPA test results for the magnet devices listed above include the phrase "there is no basis for any claim to improved fuel economy or reduced emissions due to the installation of these types of devices"

http://www.epa.gov/otaq/consumer/reports.htm

My favourite part of the claim (these sites are always entertaining) is that the molecular bonds are broken, making the fuel particles clump together less. No, I am not making that up, the site uses the word 'clumps' to describe fuel molecules. Anyway, apparently this gives the fuel more volume (presumably sort of like hair spray does for hair). Breaking bonds, isn't that like fission? And even if you could break apart the 'clumps' of fuel molecules, an SAE fuel consumption test corrects for volume variation, bringing it back down to a mass measure of fuel (since that is what the energy content is related to). Wonder if the magnets make it heavier, too?

Great entertainment.

Cheers

Jeff

x5GuyInLA 08-03-2006 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X5Jay
Why don't you be the first on the board to try it and give us your perspective?

thought about it, wanted to see if anyone has tried it...don't know if i want to drop $300 unless i know it will work the way it's advertised...did that once, don't want to do it again.

Quicksilver 08-04-2006 05:24 PM

$300.00. You gotta be joking right???

Quote:

Originally Posted by x5GuyInLA
thought about it, wanted to see if anyone has tried it...don't know if i want to drop $300 unless i know it will work the way it's advertised...did that once, don't want to do it again.


x5GuyInLA 08-05-2006 06:49 PM

nope......they want $230 for the part and $70 for the install...I had found someone on ebay that sold those things for $50 but the disclaimer on the energycel is that it needs to be installed by a certified installer or it might not work as expected...if I knew who the certified installer was, I probably would have tried it out, but I highly doubt the guy trying to sell me on this will tell me where the installer is.


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