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BMW X5 08-15-2006 01:06 PM

I'll Stir my own pot
 
http://www.nytimes.com/aponline/worl...=1&oref=slogin

please tell me exactly how you would like us not to dislike them all? FCUK that i say nuke their asses back to mahmoud and alah let them have their virgins and little boys and girls with large boobies

blondboinsd 08-15-2006 01:08 PM

Thats a dangerous step to take, then people will say "why not all muslims?" I agree both of them are a joke but I dunno if thats a good statement to make

rebound 08-15-2006 01:28 PM

I'm glad when they do this sort of thing. It shows the world what kind of people they (at least the leaders) are, and what they believe. Keep on talkin' I say!

Of course, none of their "subjects" have the right to speak their unedited mind in the same way...

BMW X5 08-15-2006 01:39 PM

and though the leaders dont exhibit the population they are leaders for a reason meaning people chose them to power which means they belive in what they do. much like here with our administration but at least we get to vote for whoever we want without anyone showing up at our doorstep with a gun. i say "like one like all"

Eric5273 08-15-2006 02:03 PM

Just a note: Whether or not you agree with the Iranian president, he was elected by a large majority last year, and the elections were indeed fair as they were monitored by dozens on international election monitoring groups including a couple of American ones. There were no claims of fraud or voting irregularities, which is far more than I can say for our own elections here.

blondboinsd 08-15-2006 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric5273
Just a note: Whether or not you agree with the Iranian president, he was elected by a large majority last year, and the elections were indeed fair as they were monitored by dozens on international election monitoring groups including a couple of American ones. There were no claims of fraud or voting irregularities, which is far more than I can say for our own elections here.

:hawt:

BMW X5 08-15-2006 02:12 PM

well in that case that goes to prove my point even more.

rebound 08-15-2006 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric5273
Just a note: Whether or not you agree with the Iranian president, he was elected by a large majority last year, and the elections were indeed fair as they were monitored by dozens on international election monitoring groups including a couple of American ones. There were no claims of fraud or voting irregularities, which is far more than I can say for our own elections here.

I don't remember - was Jimmy Carter there?

Aimster 08-15-2006 03:19 PM

So you want to kill millions of people inside Iran because of what their govt. thinks?

Wow.
That really tells a lot. Good thing you don't run this country. This is one case where I have to say Bush is a good leader.

Aimster 08-15-2006 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric5273
Just a note: Whether or not you agree with the Iranian president, he was elected by a large majority last year, and the elections were indeed fair as they were monitored by dozens on international election monitoring groups including a couple of American ones. There were no claims of fraud or voting irregularities, which is far more than I can say for our own elections here.

Yeah right. Hundreds of people were banned from running in the Presidential race in Iran.

Many ran. To get the majority vote all that guy needed was like 5% of the vote. It wasn't like the U.S where there were 2 candidates. Iran had almost a hundred.

Plus Iran's President is not even the leader of Iran. He has no powerr to do anything.

BMW X5 08-15-2006 03:27 PM

well if the president has no power then who does? and if its the people then we clearly know what they are saying now dont we?

Aimster 08-15-2006 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BMW X5
well if the president has no power then who does? and if its the people then we clearly know what they are saying now dont we?

The people of Iran went to the streets after 9/11 with candles . What other Muslim nation did that?

& Iran is run by a mullah in a towel and he has all final say in the matters of Iran. Iran is not a democracy. His name is Khameini. He wasn't elected into power.

You have too much hate inside of you. It's dangerous

BMW X5 08-15-2006 03:37 PM

call it what you will, i dont go around kicking anyones ass regardless of how much i want to, but i do steer clear. i am acting in self defence. arabs are muslim muslims are not arab but i dont know that from a distance, unfortunately for the i like my life a bit too much to find out the hard way so i steer clear. if they have a problem then do something, stop supporting terrorists stop harboring them giving them money charity etc... stop speaking out against Israel, they havent done anything but want to exist, they pulled out of Gaza and that didnt do jack shit. they tried peace and that was broken, how come no other nation speaks out against Israel? or how about that article that someone posted earlier regarding Sweden and muslims there? from a distance I look Irish and if today they would say all Irish are bad well i wouldnt blame them for thinking i'm bad but i would sure as hell try and prove to them that i'm not like them, the muslim/arab whatever you want to call it population does not do shit all they do is bitch and moan and then we arrest them because of obvious reasons like they wanted to bomb the shit out of the tunnels in NYC or hijack more planes.

Aimster 08-15-2006 03:43 PM

You seem to have more hate towards Muslims than Muslims have towards you.

So who do you think is the one to watch out for?

BMW X5 08-15-2006 04:00 PM

not me, i dont hate them for being muslim i hate them for doing what they do and what they support or rather dont support. long story short, can you figure out who on the street is going to walk with a briefcase into a train and blow it up? NO, as a result you must watch out for anyone who resembles the profile right? YES, much like if say a white boy rapes a girl in a particular part of town where there are many whiteboys with the same characteristic say blue eyes and blond hair then everyone will watch out for them (reason i'm using white is because i dont want to get flamed for being racist) now the arab/muslim population has not given me much reason to believe they are good when all i see after looking around is this one has this plot and that one has that plot. I've worked with muslims, matter of fact my ex coworker a Malasian girl married a Russian Jew like me from same town as me. they now have a child, she is muslim he is Jew. unfortunately she is one of the few, her parents were not at the wedding, but neither were his. point i'm trying to make is i am aware that they are not all loonatics but from a distance i cant tell and on the street id rather walk around than face the possible concequences. and id rather buy from a store not owned by them to avoid the posibility of my own money going to support the people who want us dead

Eric5273 08-15-2006 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Aimster
Many ran. To get the majority vote all that guy needed was like 5% of the vote. It wasn't like the U.S where there were 2 candidates. Iran had almost a hundred.

:bsflag: :clueless:


A majority (over 50%) is required. If no candidate gets 50%, then they have a run-off between the two top candidates.

In the Iranian election last year, there were 7 candidates, not "hundreds". Ahmadinejad came in 2nd in the first round with 19%, and then won the run-off with 61%.


First Round:

Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani - 6,159,453 (21.01%)
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - 5,710,354 (19.48%)
Mehdi Karroubi - 5,066,316 (17.28%)
Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf - 4,075,189 (13.9%)
Mostafa Moeen - 4,054,304 (13.83%)
Ali Larijani - 1,740,163 (5.94%)
Mohsen Mehralizadeh - 1,289,323 (4.4%)
Blank (no vote for president on ballot) - 1,221,940 (4.17%)

Voter Turnout: 62.66%



Second Round (run-off):

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - 17,284,782 (61.69%)
Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani - 10,046,701 (35.93%)
Blank (no vote for president on ballot) - 663,770 (2.37%)

Voter Turnout: 59.6%

rebound 08-15-2006 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Aimster
Yeah right. Hundreds of people were banned from running in the Presidential race in Iran.

Many ran. To get the majority vote all that guy needed was like 5% of the vote. It wasn't like the U.S where there were 2 candidates. Iran had almost a hundred.

Plus Iran's President is not even the leader of Iran. He has no powerr to do anything.

Don't forget that Iranians are Persians, not Arabs.

Eric5273 08-15-2006 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rebound
Don't forget that Iranians are Persians, not Arabs.

When you say this, I had a quick vision of that episode of All in the Family where the meat head was trying to explain to Archie that Chinese and Japanese people are different. :rofl:

E61Silver 08-15-2006 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Eric5273
Just a note: Whether or not you agree with the Iranian president, he was elected by a large majority last year, and the elections were indeed fair as they were monitored by dozens on international election monitoring groups including a couple of American ones. There were no claims of fraud or voting irregularities, which is far more than I can say for our own elections here.


Since the goverment reflects the people, we should not feel bad if we nuke them all.

rebound 08-15-2006 04:26 PM

Nothin' like the Meathead/Archie debates. TV is less now...

Aimster 08-15-2006 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric5273
:bsflag: :clueless:


A majority (over 50%) is required. If no candidate gets 50%, then they have a run-off between the two top candidates.

In the Iranian election last year, there were 7 candidates, not "hundreds". Ahmadinejad came in 2nd in the first round with 19%, and then won the run-off with 61%.


First Round:

Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani - 6,159,453 (21.01%)
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - 5,710,354 (19.48%)
Mehdi Karroubi - 5,066,316 (17.28%)
Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf - 4,075,189 (13.9%)
Mostafa Moeen - 4,054,304 (13.83%)
Ali Larijani - 1,740,163 (5.94%)
Mohsen Mehralizadeh - 1,289,323 (4.4%)
Blank (no vote for president on ballot) - 1,221,940 (4.17%)

Voter Turnout: 62.66%



Second Round (run-off):

Mahmoud Ahmadinejad - 17,284,782 (61.69%)
Akbar Hashemi Rafsanjani - 10,046,701 (35.93%)
Blank (no vote for president on ballot) - 663,770 (2.37%)

Voter Turnout: 59.6%

Where do you get your information from? Some propaganda Iranian news agency?

You forgot that before the first round there were run-offs where hundreds of people ran and their votes were not counted because the head mullah said they could not run simply because they had a chance of winning and were part of the reform party.

Eric5273 08-15-2006 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Aimster
Where do you get your information from? Some propaganda Iranian news agency?

http://www.answers.com/

E61Silver 08-15-2006 04:59 PM

Kill them NOW.

The Middle East has been a hot bed of war since the beginning of time.

They don't know anything but war.

They justify actions by saying it for the good of god.

Once they get nukes they will use them against us and destroy the world

The only solution is to kill them NOW

motordavid 08-15-2006 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by x54.4blue
Kill them NOW.

The Middle East has been a hot bed of war since the beginning of time.

They don't know anything but war.

They justify actions by saying it for the good of god.

Once they get nukes they will use them against us and destroy the world

The only solution is to kill them NOW

Damn, Blue...you roared back outta the woodwork.

I thought Icelanders were fairly pacifistic?

BMW X5 08-15-2006 05:09 PM

:iagree: he came outa nowhere i was like daumn :wow:

E61Silver 08-15-2006 05:13 PM

I have been out on my boat enjoying the summer.

rebound 08-15-2006 05:32 PM

An' gettin' angry!

(George is gettin' angry!)

motordavid 08-15-2006 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by x54.4blue
I have been out on my boat enjoying the summer.

OT and my apology for the HighJack...

Good for you! We need pics of your overhaul job!

E61Silver 08-15-2006 05:37 PM

Sorry about the highjack, please see Newport

Wagner 08-15-2006 05:42 PM

Well I saw a new agency do a report a few months back in Tehran and other Iranian cities. Those interviewed were very common with US citizens saying "I don't know what our leader is doing" and "we don't share the same opinions"...oddly enough, very similar to what the average Joe in the United States says about the Bush Administration. As for elections being 'fair', just because you were elected doesn't mean the election was fair by any means.

I will be one of the first to say that the globe in general would be better without a few 'leaders' running around.

rebound 08-15-2006 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by WagnerX5
As for elections being 'fair', just because you were elected doesn't mean the election was fair by any means.

I give you Hugo Chavez...

motordavid 08-15-2006 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by rebound
I give you Hugo Chavez...

Now there is the epitome of a western hemisphere
"Oil Punque", imo.

If he didn't have that lucky geology in his backyard,
he'd have casinos and I LuV Venezuela promos in
Sunday's NewYawkTimes travel section. And, he
would be begging for deals with the US, CDA and
the Eurogroup.

E61Silver 08-15-2006 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by rebound
An' gettin' angry!

(George is gettin' angry!)

Not really angry just think that these people hate us and want to kill us. I think that they have said that many times.

We have tried to make nice with these people tired to fight them with conventional means and have little to show for it.

We just need to understand that they will not rest to they kill us. If a mad dog was about to kill you you would not think twice about killing it. It very sad but large segments of the Middle East are made up of people that want to kill us and we need to come to terms with this.

rebound 08-15-2006 10:09 PM

You do realize I was kidding, right?

E61Silver 08-16-2006 08:26 AM

I was not kidding.............this is a real problem that way result in the end of our world.


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