I didn't work in the automotive publishing business for 3 years and not learn anything :)

No sh*t?! Cool!

Sorry - excuse me for being ambiguous. I meant Land Rover. It was pretty obvious I was talking about Ford, not BMW. :confused:

Bozo - here's a chart showing the rise and fall of British Leyland and it's ultimate fragmentation to U.S., German, and Chinese carmakers. What I didn't know was that BMW still owns the Riley brand. However, the chart shows BMW as part owners of Triumph. As far as I know, the only Triumph around these days is the motorcycle company which states on their website that they are a privately held 100% British company.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British...or_Corporation

some of my handywork... the portal is bland, but the actual sites are pretty good, I haven't been there in over 4 years so things have changed.

www.primediaautomotive.com

it used to be called gr8ride.com but that business tanked like so many other internet businesses.