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blondboinsd 09-15-2006 08:42 PM

Are You Kidding Me?
 
http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/n...1142-bush.html

Does this annoy anyone else? Hes saying (from the news this evening, I think this is the correct article) that we should create our own definition of what was stated at the geneva convention as to fair interrogation? How long till our enemys re-view their views as well? I mean is he f*in insane or just THAT stupid? God it makes me ashamed to have him as my leader :mad:

Quicksilver 09-15-2006 08:59 PM

Very typical for someone stupid. :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by blondboinsd
Does this annoy anyone else?

Glad you claimed ownership. Give him a ring and get this strightened out please.:rofl:

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Originally Posted by blondboinsd
God it makes me ashamed to have him as my leader :mad:


Deuce 09-15-2006 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by blondboinsd
Does this annoy anyone else?

Doesn't bother me at all.

blondboinsd 09-15-2006 09:13 PM

Your nuts, then your going to complain when our enemys who abide by the the laws of the Geneva convention stop following it and i'll I will have to say is, oh well its our fault as usual

Deuce 09-15-2006 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by blondboinsd
Your nuts, then your going to complain when our enemys who abide by the the laws of the Geneva convention stop following it and i'll I will have to say is, oh well its our fault as usual

They don't abide by those laws but that's besides the point. The point is our enemy's have changed and so must the rules.

blondboinsd 09-15-2006 09:19 PM

Everyone else abides by it, why are we so special?

BradATL 09-15-2006 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by blondboinsd
Your nuts, then your going to complain when our enemys who abide by the the laws of the Geneva convention stop following it and i'll I will have to say is, oh well its our fault as usual

You seem to have a very poor grasp of the proposed legislation.

But in any event, please tell me about all of our various enemies who have adhered to the Geneva convention.

The Japanese during WWII? Afraid not. They imprisoned our people in hell-hole concentration camps and tortured them.

The North Koreans during the Korean War? The Vietnamese during the Vietnam War? Ask John McCain (who, by the way, can't lift his arms above his head due to the years of beatings he took).

The proposed legislation is an attempt to add specificity to a somewhat vague document. It is not intended to allow carte-blanche torture. If you think the legislation is faulty and needs to be amended, then please propose modifications. But don't whine like an ignorant little school boy about something you haven't even studied.

blondboinsd 09-15-2006 09:24 PM

The POINT is we're already hated and for good reason, if we REALLY think it needs to be changed we should work with the other countries not just do it alone, that is why we are so disliked in the first place, also we ALSO imprisoned japanese people in internment camps or we're you playing hookie that day your class went over that?

SANguru 09-15-2006 11:05 PM

so I assume them lopping the heads off POWs is abiding by Geneva convention?? niiice..:confused: BTW.. it's called a war.. that's when we shoot and kill..

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Everyone else abides by it, why are we so special?


x5GuyInLA 09-15-2006 11:26 PM

blondboi...how do you win a war when you're not on equal footing? when your enemy has no regard for your rules of engagement? something needs to be changed...this war can't be won if we continue to take the moral high ground. how much worse do you think our enemies will treat our POWs? They already humiliate them by cutting their throats on tv...cutting their heads off and dumping them on the side of the road. Go watch the video of Nick Berg's decapitation and tell me that you think we should still abide by those laws. I personally think we should have carte blanche. Do onto others as they do onto you. may not be the best policy, but it's how we must live if we, as a country, want to survive in this crazy world. What do you think would have happened if the U.S. didn't respond to the WTC bombing? since our attackers don't have a sovereign nation, we attacked those nations that support them. call me an ignorant right wing crazy, but we need to do what we did to Japan in WWII. Was it right for the U.S. to kill all those civilians? probably not. But do you think that the war would have ended as quickly as it did had we not bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Definitely not. you say we're hated, and it's true, but I think we're hated because we went to war. I don't think any nation would have stood by if the attack was on their soil? Do you think the English would have stood by if they were attacked the way we were? No. Do you think the French would have stood by if the Eiffel Tower or the Louvre were destroyed? Well, maybe. Our enemies hate us because of our lifestyle, our values, our freedoms. Your slogan is "Go Human Rights Campaign". What rights do you think you would have if our enemies controlled the world?


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