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Quicksilver 10-05-2006 01:13 PM

Palm 700P turning out to be fun.
 
I said i would give an update on how the 700P experience is going so here are a few thoughts.

While i did finally get it to work with bluetooth there are some volumn issues that will hopefully be solved with a firmware upgrade. The Phone does suffer from low volumn on it's own which was solved with a prc called Volumn care.

But the fun came when I bought the little adaptor that you have to have to use iPod ear phones.(They should have included it but I had to buy it for $10.00) Once I did that i started downloading songs into the 700P which was very easy. So the MP3 player sounds great. But the real fun came when I booted up the web and went to a site called io2go which is a collection of online radio stations. http://www.radioio.com/io2go/ Being a Jazz fan I found this streaming Jazz radio station and it played on the treo without a hitch. Oh yes we are lovin the querty keyboard. Very convienent for sending text messages. So far so good.

In a passing conversation I heard one of the tech's in the SF palm store mention that problems occur when people try to use software from the 650 that they believe will work on the 700P. There appears to be a bit of a difference with the buttons and the OS between the 650 and the 700P and that causes problems. I am still learning the ropes though so i take very careful steps in my learning curve making sure any included software is written for the 700P. Maybe I'll watch some TV using MOBITV. http://mobitv.handmark.com/?r_id=ggl_mobitv

pseto 10-05-2006 01:49 PM

Good writeup Barry. I installed the VolumeCare a few months ago and it works pretty good. Not sure why the volume is so low on the 700p, and VolumeCare could be louder IMO. I've streamed a lot of radio too and played MP3; especially at work so I won't tie up my company's network.

I've been thinking about dong the TV mod, but not sure I can justify the $10/month. Feelfree to be the guinea pig and if all goes well, I may give it a try.

Roc3b 10-05-2006 03:15 PM

Yeah....volume is low on the 650 as well.

Quicksilver 10-05-2006 06:35 PM

Get Volumncare. You wont be sorry. http://gotreosoftware.com/

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Originally Posted by Roc3b
Yeah....volume is low on the 650 as well.


Fr0zty 10-05-2006 06:41 PM

I am waiting for the 750 http://www.pdastreet.com/images/arti...ingularaaa.jpg

Kewl X5 10-05-2006 09:01 PM

I agree with you. Couldn't live without the Treo 650 last year and this year, wouldn't do without the Treo 700p. However, we need that firmware update to help with the "speed" of switching apps and help with the BT drivers. Otherwise, it is a great Smartphone!!:thumbup:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilver
I said i would give an update on how the 700P experience is going so here are a few thoughts.

While i did finally get it to work with bluetooth there are some volumn issues that will hopefully be solved with a firmware upgrade. The Phone does suffer from low volumn on it's own which was solved with a prc called Volumn care.

But the fun came when I bought the little adaptor that you have to have to use iPod ear phones.(They should have included it but I had to buy it for $10.00) Once I did that i started downloading songs into the 700P which was very easy. So the MP3 player sounds great. But the real fun came when I booted up the web and went to a site called io2go which is a collection of online radio stations. http://www.radioio.com/io2go/ Being a Jazz fan I found this streaming Jazz radio station and it played on the treo without a hitch. Oh yes we are lovin the querty keyboard. Very convienent for sending text messages. So far so good.

In a passing conversation I heard one of the tech's in the SF palm store mention that problems occur when people try to use software from the 650 that they believe will work on the 700P. There appears to be a bit of a difference with the buttons and the OS between the 650 and the 700P and that causes problems. I am still learning the ropes though so i take very careful steps in my learning curve making sure any included software is written for the 700P. Maybe I'll watch some TV using MOBITV. http://mobitv.handmark.com/?r_id=ggl_mobitv


x5GuyInLA 10-05-2006 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kewl X5
I agree with you. Couldn't live without the Treo 650 last year and this year, wouldn't do without the Treo 700p. However, we need that firmware update to help with the "speed" of switching apps and help with the BT drivers. Otherwise, it is a great Smartphone!!:thumbup:

don't know if a firmware update will help with the speed of switching between apps because i think it has more to do with Versamail than the OS. For whatever reason, Versamail slows the whole system down. when I had Versamail installed, the 700p would stall quite often, but after I removed the program, it rarely stalls. I think Versamail just uses a lot of system resources and not sure if a firmware will remedy that. The issue I had with the 700p was with the caller ID showing up on the MID. Instead of showing the current caller, it would show the last caller's ID...there were times when I thought it was my fiancee calling, say "hey baby", only to realize that it was a client or a guy. talk about embarrassment. I ended up getting a cradle that clipped to the center A/C vent so that I could see who's calling w/o having to grab the phone.

Quicksilver 10-06-2006 01:52 AM

Hmmm Interesting. Never had any trouble with Versamail slowing anything down but i have seen one other user who had the Caller ID problem you mentioned. Did you get it sorted out??

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Originally Posted by x5GuyInLA
don't know if a firmware update will help with the speed of switching between apps because i think it has more to do with Versamail than the OS. For whatever reason, Versamail slows the whole system down. when I had Versamail installed, the 700p would stall quite often, but after I removed the program, it rarely stalls. I think Versamail just uses a lot of system resources and not sure if a firmware will remedy that. The issue I had with the 700p was with the caller ID showing up on the MID. Instead of showing the current caller, it would show the last caller's ID...there were times when I thought it was my fiancee calling, say "hey baby", only to realize that it was a client or a guy. talk about embarrassment. I ended up getting a cradle that clipped to the center A/C vent so that I could see who's calling w/o having to grab the phone.


x5GuyInLA 10-06-2006 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilver
Hmmm Interesting. Never had any trouble with Versamail slowing anything down but i have seen one other user who had the Caller ID problem you mentioned. Did you get it sorted out??

haven't gotten the caller ID problem sorted out yet. I think what happens is when a call comes in, it doesn't show up in the call log; however instead of linking the current call screen to the bluetooth, they link the last call on the call log. As for the Versamail, when it's installed, you'll notice that when you push the phone button (the button to the left), the whole top line (where it says "Verizon Wireless") takes a second or 2 to appear, whereas, when it's not installed, it appears instantly. I've had a lot less freezes now that I've removed Versamail.

hayaku 10-06-2006 11:04 PM

be careful with the earphone plug. its a known issue they WILL go bad and they will make your phone think there's a plug in at all times, rendering regular phone use/speaker phone useless.

i had one replaced under warranty and now refuse to use any headphone plug in devices because that is a known weakness of the treo. as i understand it, that weakness is still there in the newer 700 and 750 designs as well.

the BEST thing about the treo i like is the ability to tether to a laptop. i now have wireless internet access with my laptop anywhere my treo has data signal, especially at the desert racetracks i go to frequently... just uses my unlimited data plan. the 700+ series will give you better connection speeds. the 650 is limited to 56k or about... but better 56k then nothing at all right?

Quicksilver 10-07-2006 12:48 AM

Thanks for the warning. It appears that Volumncare has an advance preference that will bypass the headphone jack if this happens. Apparently the programmer responded to others who have had that problem. It's noted in the Volumncare manual.

I haven't tried the laptop thing yet.(Don't have one yet) It took me a while to even pay attention to this capability partly because so many complained that Verizon had disabled that function. It appears to be back because so many people took Verizon to task for being cheap trying to charge for every little thing.

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Originally Posted by hayaku
be careful with the earphone plug. its a known issue they WILL go bad and they will make your phone think there's a plug in at all times, rendering regular phone use/speaker phone useless.

i had one replaced under warranty and now refuse to use any headphone plug in devices because that is a known weakness of the treo. as i understand it, that weakness is still there in the newer 700 and 750 designs as well.

the BEST thing about the treo i like is the ability to tether to a laptop. i now have wireless internet access with my laptop anywhere my treo has data signal, especially at the desert racetracks i go to frequently... just uses my unlimited data plan. the 700+ series will give you better connection speeds. the 650 is limited to 56k or about... but better 56k then nothing at all right?


Ed Garces 10-07-2006 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilver
But the fun came when I bought the little adaptor that you have to have to use iPod ear phones.(They should have included it but I had to buy it for $10.00)

I'm not sure if Hayaku was referring to the adapter. If I were you, order the Palm Headset which does not require the adapter; it's about as good as your iPod headset. I've tried both. I also agree that the adapter could ruin that socket in your Treo in a short time.

Have you tried watching video in your Treo yet? I've been enjoying mine even before the iPod videos came out. I'm currently using Kinoma viewer but I might buy the new "Neuros" http://www.treocentral.com/content/Stories/927-1.htm

Quicksilver 10-07-2006 01:45 AM

Thanks for the advice. Impulse buying is what i did. I had my iPod headphones with me so I decided to go for it. I did see the Treo head phones which apparently can be use to answer the phone and so on. But i believe i'll be using my iPod for the music thing. The Jazz on the treo thing though really got my attention and with time to spare somewhere i know I will be checking that out.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Garces
I'm not sure if Hayaku was referring to the adapter. If I were you, order the Palm Headset which does not require the adapter; it's about as good as your iPod headset. I've tried both. I also agree that the adapter could ruin that socket in your Treo in a short time.

No not yet. Didn't want to spring for the extra $10.00 bucks a month it cost to do it. I'm on the verizon network so it's not provided. And yes I have Kinoma also

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Garces

Have you tried watching video in your Treo yet? I've been enjoying mine even before the iPod videos came out. I'm currently using Kinoma viewer but I might buy the new "Neuros" http://www.treocentral.com/content/Stories/927-1.htm


chade7320 10-07-2006 10:40 AM

try projectblackberry.com tons of free hacked apps for treos and blackberrys, i was thinking about going to the 700 from my 650 but i think i will wait for the 750 as well

drfred 10-07-2006 11:17 AM

question for the experts from a novice
 
I know nothing about palms, etc. I was at Verizon looking at the 700p and they could not answer my esoteric question. From home, I can access my office computer with hyperterminal and the office modem via the phone line.
Does the 700p or any device have the ability to dial the modem and bring the office's desktop up on the device?
Thanks,
Fred

Quicksilver 10-07-2006 12:52 PM

Installing or hacking the device is a sure way of locking it up for good. Best to know what your doing before embarking down this road. Me? don't have time to deal with the hassel this would cause. But thanks anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by chade7320
try projectblackberry.com tons of free hacked apps for treos and blackberrys, i was thinking about going to the 700 from my 650 but i think i will wait for the 750 as well



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