Breastfeeding....Revisited
 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,229390,00.html

OK, the breastfeeding thing is no big deal..Although, I can see how it can make some people (especially those without children) feel a little funny. So no biggie, just use a blanket or something. They politely offered one, but she told them no. Thats where I have a problem. Shes not the only person on the planet...A little cover is all they were asking for...:rolleyes:

OK...mom was visiting relatives in Vermont, they live in New Mexico, and the child's name is "River"...the needle on my Hippie-ometer is pegged, folks...they likely live in a straw-bale house in Taos and I can tell you right now River's dad has a bio-fuel converted VW in the commune garage and River's mom prolly does not own a bra.

People just don't get that their rights END where someone elses begin. She has a right to breast feed, I have a right not to see it. What's the problem with being discreet?

Give me a break its a boob we have all seen them whats the big deal.

That's your opinion and you have a right to it. It's not a big deal for me. I pesonally feel is it private but not being a mother, I'm in no position to have an opinion. You have older people who may find it disrespectful. Parents who maybe don't want to explain to their 9 year old son what is going on. It doesn't matter what the reason is. The issue is that her rights end and someone else's begin.

Isn't it ok to ask that she not do so if it is making people
uncomfortable? You know like smoking or something?:dunno:

Obviously not, if she refused to use the blanket that the flight attendant offered to give her. What would the harm have been. Is it not common courtesy?

If a 9 year sees it and asks, great its time to explain to explain the birds and bees.

Look woman go around with low cut shirts all the time, do they worry about what a older person thinks? And what about those Vitoria Secret Ads, bet they offend some people as well.

Breast feeding is a natural wonderful thing and yes a blanket for a little cover-up is normal practice.

That is the issue - she was asked to use a blanket and refused. As far as the 9 year old and the birds and the bees - that's your opinion. His parents may not agree.

Indeed. You have to understand that people may not feel comfortable with that happening right next to them. Yes, it is a very natural and normal thing. So is masturbation. Perhaps I should give that a shot on my next flight. And no, Im not covering up.

Obviously I have never had kids and fully respect the right of mothers to breastfeed in public, but isn't 22 months a little old to still be breastfeeding?

My point is that people are not discrete and you would not go up to woman wearing a low cut shirt and ask her to cover up.

No question that people should consider people and yes she should of used a blanket. I don't mean to be as extreme as my previous sentence indicates.


On the issue of the nine year I think that people make to much of sexually and if the parent explain it it would be no big deal. If a child notices it and asks it probably time to talk about it. Not sure a nine year would care?

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:rofl: :bustingup :yikes: :lmao:

Ill get back to you on that..:rofl:

:confused: erm ... ok bozo let me know when you're next flight is and i'll be sure to avoid that one :D :rofl: ;)

HAHA..Smart man!...

:rofl: :rofl: :thumbup:

:thumbup: damn straight!!:rofl:

Masturbation by its very nature is a private act. I think that you know that and are giving a upsurge argument, like a real Bozo.

Bozo, you obviously go through a lot of hair gel.;)

Bozo,

not sure if you watched the TV programme on this week think it was on either ITV or Living TV. about brest feeding extremes.

The eight year old girl still getting breast fed:confused:

Tell that to PeeWee Herman. What can be more normal and natural than nakedness? You dont see anybody walking down the street naked though..Thats my point. Not everybody digs it. And just because its natural -and quite arguably - necessary, doesnt mean you have to show everyone. River would have been fed with or without a blanket, so why refuse? Principle? Gimme a break.

Looking for attention...

Fiona! Well, I never! :nanana:



Oh my..I did miss that one. 8 years old? Thats sick...:sick:

Exactly. And she got it. She'll probably win the case however..:rolleyes:

Breast feeding is a natural act which is done to meet the needs of a baby.
As a adult we are able to control our needs to go to the bathroom or master bate. It is not natural for a adult to masterbate in public!

Not even with a blanket??:rofl:

H'mm this thread is getting a bit sticky.:zoom:

Did she have a 'reason' not to use a blanket?

There are a lot of 'natural' acts that aren't appropriate in public - masturbation, farting, burping etc. IMHO there is nothing 'wrong' with any of them and we shouldn't make a big deal of them when they occur. However, it is only 'right' to avoid doing these things in public and if can't be avoided to at least minimize the effect to other people.

If she had a reason for not covering up besides just not wanting to, then maybe people are making a bigger deal over it than it needs to be. However, if she just didn't want to give other people around her thier right to not see her, then maybe she is in wrong.

Yeah agreed, I must say breastfeeding grosses me out, there are women around here who do it ALL the time in public and I honestly think it is rude and it does gross me out but I do understand that it is needed

:confused: next you're going to tell me that I speak chinese, like a real China Man?? :nanana:

I don't understand why it would gross you out. A female breast is nice to look at. And seeing a little child is normally sweet and nice as well ( this is not to see that I want to see a five year old breast feeding).

LOL In an expensive restaurant is is gross and um newsflash breasts do NOTHING for me :P If I'm at a nice dinner at an expensive place I don't want to see that, I just don't think its necessary

This is definately not a black & white issue. It's very cultural.

For example, regarding your reference of a "9 year old", what if the parents of a 9 year old Muslim kid thought it was offensive that you did not wear a burka and that the kid was able to see your face?

See my point?

As far as I know, there is no law against breast feeding in public, but that may be different in different states. But if someone is within the law and you are offended by it, you have the option to leave and go somewhere else. However, you do not have the right to force them to leave.

As far as what is legal and what is not, that is for each community to decide for themselves. I'm pretty sure there are no federal laws regarding this kind of thing.

FYI; Education and information is a wonderful thing. :)

http://www.007b.com/breastfeeding_public.php

http://www.ncsl.org/programs/health/breast50.htm

http://www.lalecheleague.org/Law/LawUS.html?m=0,1,0

I somewhat agree with Eric on this one. Even though I think breast feeding in public with no cover up is mildly inappropriate, I also believe that kicking them off the plane is wrong.

If it's a private establishment like a fine restaurant and the owner/manager wants to ask the offender to leave, so be it. But on public transportation like an airplane, I think that the offending couple should be told that what they are doing is frowned upon and asked to stop because it's bad etiquette.

I also think people should try to have a little more courtesy to the people around them.

B

As an aside, is a jet owned by an airline public transportation?
Like the restaurant, can they not evict whom they those?:dunno:

I dont have a clue about the law or anything, but your point is what this is all about. Maybe its not against the law, and of course, its a natural act. But if a little blanket is going to shut up a bunch of people that are ticking her off about what she is doing, what exactly IS her motive to not do so? Thats the point. In other words, this has NOTHING to do with breastfeeding. Its HER and her cry for attention....

This article said
"She was seated by the window in the second-to-last row, her husband was seated between her and the aisle and no part of her breast was showing"

So I'm confused. If no one can see her breast what's the issue? Why offer a branket if no one can see her breast? Why remove a woman from an aircraft for breast feeding her child if no on can see the breast. Is it just the idea that the child is sucking a breast or what? If this statement is true then i can't see what all the fuss is about.

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Yeah I second that in this case I don't see the big deal!

2 things:

#1 Breastfeeding is legal in most states.

#2 Masturbation in public is Illegal everywhere
But your welcome to give it a go.
Just let us know what jail you will be in.
So we can E-mail ya.:rofl:

LOL..Yeah, I might want to rethink that now that you mention it! :rofl:

I actually think I'm starting to miss the point though...My beef is NOT with the breastfeeding...Although, as I stated before, I understand where people could potentially become offended.

An "unlikely" analogy. In some parts of Asia, the color red is sometimes seen as offensive. If I was in a store with a bright red shirt, in the back of the restaurant, where no one else normally sits, and the owner came up to me and asked me politely to put my jacket on, I would. I KNOW it might seem offensive. My jacket is right there. What reason would I have NOT to put it on, except to prove a point? And thats the only part I have a problem with. The baby wouldn't have died if a blanket was covering her boob. The flight attendants would have smiled and walked away, and 8-12 minutes later, the baby would have been happy and full. So, why, I ask. Thats all. WHY not put the blanket on, if it would have settled everything?

I understand your point but here's where it falls short. If you had the red jacket on and no-one saw it then what's the issue? Same with this woman. No-one saw her boob so what the complaint? Are they upset at the idea that she's brestfeeding? How could they be upset with you because they knew you had on a red jacket but couldn't see it? :dunno:

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I agree

LOL..This is starting to sound like a case of Law and Order! :rofl:

With the jacket, who cares what the issue is? Just put the jacket on! Why argue it, when all Im going to do is eat, and go? What I dont understand, is why NOT do it? Just because you dont feel you have to? Which in itself, is OK, if that is indeed the reason. I just want to know WHY?

And youre absolutely right. IF no one saw, then why the big deal. Maybe it was the flight attendants themselves that felt uncomforable. Or maybe they had to be passed to get to the bathroom or something. I dont know.

But I also think the "big deal" question should be addressed to her, not the airline. She obviously paid for the ticket. She obviously wanted to go back to New Mexico. She obviously wanted to get there by a certain time. She obviously had people to see. If she provided "lip service", and and accepted a stupid blanket from some flight attendant she would probably never see again, and probably not even had to use to the stupid thing, all of that would have been accomplished. But she had an agenda. She wanted to prove a point, probably never finished feeding the baby, now has lawyers fees, court appearances, etc. So the real issue is, was all this worth it? I actually dont think so, but I might be wrong.

What do you think Michelle?