H2 Anyone?
 

Does any of you guy's have a H2 or know anyone who owns one, I am looking for a BIG suv to put some rims for the summer,but something I can also off-road in.Also other than it being a gas guzzler is their any major problems with them.Any input will be greatly appreciated :thumbup:

Go to one of my favorite websites: www.fuh2.com (click on the pic)

Go with the H1 Alpha with the Duramax diesel. :thumbup:

big rims and off roading are NOT a good combo............. if you truely want to go off roading.......... leave the stock wheels and tires on it .......... or better yet...... get a jeep

OMG do I ever HATE HATE HATE HATE HATE Hummers! Their whats wrong with this world, burn em!

some could say the same thing about certain people here :ahem: :ahem: u

once again nothing constructive to add then please :shutup:

:withstupi

You are totally useless as usual and btw your hijacking the thread one would expect that for you thou :thumbup:

I say if you REALLY want to offroad the H2 isn't really that good, its just a glorified Tahoe, get a Land Cruiser or Lx470 those are true off roaders, their proven and fit in parking spaces :P

I could honestly care less what you think of them, If you have never had one or known anyone who did PISS OFF, They are not whats wrong with the world you are :mad:

Also I dont plan on keeping the big rims on when I go off-roading, imagine what 24's would look like in 2ft of mud lol

LOL plenty of people I know own them and I've driven them, their not that great at all, you cannot park them, their not that good offroad, the interior plastics look like something out of Rubbermaid and they will kill anything they hit, their total vanity cars end of story

If you want a car that is really good at offroading its not an H2, a Land Cruiser will kick its ass anyday and its a much more useful car

I would also like to thank Derek and BMW X5 for the help!!

a land cruiser despite its name is too top heavy and depending on the off roading you want will flip plus just because they make a commercial for it going off road doesnt mean they do well. plus you can say a range rover is good too i've seen the tests they put them through in the learn to drive one lesson you get when you pick up in UK so learn something about life application and um just fluff thank you have a nice day :thebird: :stfu:

my pleasure. as for H2 they look so so in my opinion but thats because I'm in love with the original H1 saw one of those babies at the NYC car show and you had to pry me off with a crowbar that thing is sweet. not sure how it would do rock climbing off road but the huge wheels in mud and sand i'm sure are awesome

If you want something for off-road, I would recommend the new Land Rover LR3.

My bro had his Escalade stolen so he rented a H2 for a couple weeks. I drove it and here are my impresions:

Interior space: although the car is huge, when I sat in it, i didn't have much more wiggle and comfort room than my X5. Storage with the extra tire inside was also limited. Back seats were huge though.

Because of alot of the design elements, a lot of the view is obstructed when you drive because of some weird things that stick out on the vehicle.

It drives like a four cylinder Toyota Camry. No really. It has no "go" and it tkaes up a lot of lane space. Not good if you drive tight roads or park in small areas. Brakes like a pig.

Inside feels cheap.

People and other cars do get out of it's way, especailly when it's a speed yellow color. (I called it the school bus.)

-- I am overall, not a fan.. I wanted to like it but could not. I felt it was obnixous just for the sake of being obnixous. The huge size did not beneift in utility space or comfort.

B

btw, my bro is replacing his Escalade with a Supercharged Range Rover.. Now that's a vehicle !!! I call it the X7 because it really was designed by BMW.

All suvs are top heavy get a friggin clue (BMW X5), The Lr3 would be way more top heavy then the Land Cruiser, its a proven vehicle , they use them throughout the world because they are just that good, the H2 is a vanity car, nuff said The RR would be a good offroader with the air suspension but the Land Cruiser will run right with it because both from what I know have mutiple locking differentials and a height control air suspension

if you REALLY want an offroad vehicle, the Hummer is NOT the vehicle for the job, their are much better cars out there

yes they are all top heavy but small wheels and big chassy dont help take a physics class might help understanding some stuff instead of regurgitating what a magazine ad said. H2 probably not the best off roader vs say a jeep but depends on off roading you want to do and FYI Hummer was designed for sand and mud and water (the H1) the H2 is more of a vanity vehicle but then again your RR is probably to make up for the lack of a manhood so I wouldn't be talking if i were you

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Ok I seriously dont care about you opinion, it seems like every thread you subscribe to is just to make an arguement or show your GAYNESS, isnt there a G.L.A.D forum where you could argue with people about shit. This thread has nothing to do with you as I have already stated. I dont care what you think it looks like or if I can park it. Your opinion would be useful if I were asking about what is the best Elton John cd to buy, not this one. So once again you may post all you want but your word mean absolutely nothing to me, have a nice day

I had an H2 for a bit definately NOT an off-road vehicle underpinning is the same as a 2500 suburban they are extremely underpowered for thier size and weight plus as is common with the CV IFS systems on american trucks the turning radius is terrible so if you are planning on any trail work it will drive you nuts....Personally the land rover discovery would be a good choice they are very abundent (given a production run starting in early 90's through the LR3 intro two years ago) relativly nimble and a great all terrain vehicle as well...just dont try to pull them by the brushguard (usually mounted to bumper not frame) and they do great! The LR3 is great as well (Had one for a loaner while my S600 was in the shop) but I have no expierence with them off road. Also if you want to do big wheels I know yokohama and toyo (possibly others) make mud terrain tires in up to a 22 now

I am by no means an off road expert but it seems to me if one is serious about it the the only vehicle i have ever seen that fits offroad needs is a Toyota land cruiser.

the old ones were great has anyone had a chance to trail test one of the new retro style ones yet (IIRC now called the FJ)? they have some pretty solid ground clearance

Land cruisers and the land rovers have been built for rough terrain look at the UN and european military vehicles you will see a lot of both

Land Rover
Toyota FJ (the new ones)
Wranglers (somewhat)
H1's

That's about it

Seems to be the principal means of transport in Africa as well. But i suppose they may be custom made for that application.

Told you, the Land Cruiser is a PROVEN off road vehicle, it had long pulled and proven how good it is at what it does

Dude... tone it down. Blondboi simply expressed his opinion. No reason to give him the finger. Let's be civil here...

Please see my reply above to BMW X5...

Sorry just got a little carried away there

Folks, we are coming dangerously close to personal insults, an act that is not tolerated here.

Let's keep it civil and respectful.

thanks,

Juan

BMW X5: My daily driver is a 96 Landcruiser with 31s, man-a-fre lift kit and ARB bull bars....... and I do go off-roading about 10 times a year (cuz I ain't a poseur), and my baby performs very well.........mud in my blood.....

Weird day eh Juan??

Whats with this group?

I thought we are suppose to be friends with a common interest?

Stuff like this happens in the Lounge on occasion, that's why Juan and I are here ;)

You mean this is like school and you need to watch over the children

I think the H1 has to be the best off road SUV.

The only draw back would be its size.

Getting more wierd as the day progresses.

Take one person out of the discussion and it doesn't happen.

hope you dont mean me:confused:

No, not at all. We just need to watch out for personal attacks, those are not tolerated. Those have been the demise of other boards, and we will not let that happen here!!!!!!!!!!

If would be very sad if this board broke down to that level, I understand but really believe in free speech.

Of course I mean you. :nanana:

grr no fair, I make one slip up and all of a sudden everyone's at my throat, I get threats from a Cali freak boi that he will smack me with a keyboard and hopes "I die" and he gets away with it, maybe I should make my name boi too and call it a day:mad:

Free speech is encouraged, personal attacks are not. Period. That will not change. If you see someone here attacking someone, flag it to the mods, and we will end it. Zero tolerance of that type of activity is our policy!

I have fun driving a turbo charge up armor hummvee throught baghdad......:driver:

SGT, you rock, end of story :)

Nothing you said was off base IMO, you are good. Just enjoy... Oh, if you actually attend the next meet, we will give you lot's of slack ;)

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: jay :thumbup: :thumbup:

well no I'll take the blame for the middle finger but there was no wording there, plus for every action there's a reaction. but I do appreciate the slack hehe when you guys doing one in NYC? what are we chopped liver?

Dude, Cmyx5go is always looking for an excuse for a meet. Send her a PM,, and get one going! She is an awesome person, like a sister to me ;).

Dude L cant be like your sister me and her both got red hair do you have red hair? :nanana:

Yes, I do actually. Just ask Laura or Michelle, oh, mine is natural as well :nanana:

Great photos can you tell us about the specs on the army HMV?

I thought originally they were suppose to have gas turbine but ended up was a diesel which results in it being under powered?

:hawt:

H2 in action
http://youtube.com/watch?v=fvLzjzoxgfY

so is mine :nanana:

You can't play the natural red head card with me. I own that card ;)

Only on way to tell if its natural, do you want me to be the judge;)

Umm, no. Michelle is the Judge :nanana:

I thought she was the one with the natural red hair?

I have strawberry blonde hair.

EWWWWWWWWWW

hey speak up you saw my picture tell em i got red hair

Is it natural;)

True dat!

Me too ;)

Hey Sarge - Nice arms, and I don't mean the guns :thumbup: :rofl:

Thank you for your service :bow:

:hijack: Carry on

What do you mean - she saw your picture :confused:

Hey, MD...since Wagner is on baby-duty, you may want to get Sarge on your side!

Was wondering what happened to Wagner and his political threads, would think that the election results made him happy. But being a father is much more important.

Jealous? yup she saw my pictures ;) if you wana c my pictures you gotta ask for it L hehe :nanana:

WAIT JUST A MINUTE WAGNER IS A WUA WUA DADDY?

Sorry O - I'm not used to having to ask :nanana:

And what's this BS about chopped liver :confused: I'm in NY and I've been to three meets

:nanana::nanana::nanana::nanana::nanana:

ya you BEEN to 3 were any here? NOOHHHH
ok ok you dont have to ask just pm me :) dont want you know who getting his err her panties in a twist

H2 to a near riot at Stonewall to awesome pics of Baghdad to discussion about whether the drapes and curtains match....head spins...

And no mention of a Unimog...?

Uhhhh, yes :slap: I put one together in lower CT in June. I drove to DC in May. That is what the X is for, no?

No panties in a wad dude, nothong wrong :nanana:

You guys really killed poor Dr Jays thread - you should be ashamed of yourselves

:hijack:

and you contributed so dont you go making us look bad

Bump for da' Unimog. Or a Touareg...I should post a pic of my friend's Toareg after a day in Ocal National Forest...I gotta say, the Touareg walks AWAY from it all off road...and you can get a V-10 diesel.

Am I in the right thread? I can't tell anymore...eff it, I'm off to www.advrider.com

Wow I have no idea where this thread went, thanks for all of the info, going to look at a H2 tomarrow ill let everyone know whats up

My dad loves his Toureg (sp). Just picked up his second, a 2006 V10 diesel. They have a place up in the moutains (Not far from Dr Jay - Wayne County PA) and it kicks ass off road.

VW missed the market most people don't go off road. In order to go off road VW made it way to heavy and small. The Q7 is an over grown Toureg which is a better highway car but it still has the weight from the basic design.

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Trying to get back on track, I'd like some input as well, I'm thinking about getting an H2, no I do not offroad, so I do not care that. Either that or I've been eyeing a silver 300C SRT8.

If don't go off road why get a H2?

If you need a really big SUV get the new Suburban or GMC Denali.

If you want something smaller, and in a class of its own, get the 2007 X5.

Because I can? I didn't realize I had to buy a vehicle based on function alone. The X5 is basically worthless, I can fit more into our RX300 and it has a way better nav system despite being a year older.

i'm sorry but rx300 is a jackedup Camry, no way it'll drive like an X5. i doubt you can fit more in it than the X5, if you flip down the back seats in the x5

as far as the H2, don't buy it. H2 is absolutely nothing special besides how it looks.
it's not a good offroader at all, don't believe all the marketing hoopla, that's just smart marketing from GM to sell a Tahoe with different skin for 20k more than it's worth.
second of all, if you have a bimmer, now even a 90s model has a better interior than cheap plastic the hummer has. not to mention, handling, breaking, cornering, oh ya you do know real world is about 8mpg city right?

if you want an offroader get a G500, 3 locking diffs, neck in neck with H1 best offroaders

if you want a grocery go getter and be bored out of your mind, won't have to worry about little quirks, get an RX300

if you have a billion kids that you haul around all day, join every other mother on the block and get a Suburban

if you want a grocery go getter, a performer, an all around do it all, one that has a soul, get an X5

ps: one thing H2 got going for it though, you can fit 26's on there, you can't do that on X5, Rx300, etc. /end sarcasm

The 2007 X5 is a second generation design.

It is larger and has more storage area that can also be used as a third seat.

Don't know why you would want a H2? I still think the GMC Denali is a better choose if want a really big SUV.

This demonstrates wonderfully what the H2 is (at least in my mind).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlISLZMzGrg

Outstanding and relevant video for this thread. Love that show, and they are almost always spot on. :thumbup: My .02 cents on Hummers...I can't stand them.

My business partner has an H2. He likes it fine. He got headers and exhaust added to it.

After he did that, I tuned it for him (using EFI live - OK I had it tuned, then tweaked it a bit).

After 3 years, he's hot now for a Range Rover Supercharged. He's never had any problems with the Hummer, other than he likes a new car every couple of years, and it's about that time.

As this is a long thread, I forgot who made the comment, but someone said the Land Rover is "top heavy". It definately looks top heavy, but you would be surprised. I was considering it when I got my X5, and that big tall LR3 handles very well around turns -- almost no body lean.

If you go to their website and watch some of the off-road videos there, you would see what it's capable of. It has something new called the "Terrain Response System" which is like a traction system that has 5 or 6 settings, one for each type of surface: Ice, Mud, Rock/Boulder, On-Road, etc. It adjusts the gearing, braking, traction control, and even the suspension settings to optimize for each type of surface.

http://www.rangerovers.net/miscimage...terrespon1.JPG


Also, each wheel has some rediculous amount of suspension travel in the "Rock/Boulder" setting -- I think something like 13 inches. I think the clearance under the car is also something like 10 inches.

And the air intake on the car is up high on the side, so it can drive through up to 2 feet of water without any problems -- they make a point of saying this in the brochure.

I decided on the X5 because i never go off-road so all that stuff did not matter to me, but I remember thinking that if I did go off-road, the LR3 was the car for me and none of the others would have even been close.


http://www.rockcrawler.com/reviews/l.../mike_tilt.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/i...0418045979.jpg

http://www.roadandtrack.com/assets/i...0418050035.jpg

You should definately check it out.

Nice. Again, WHO THE FUCK SAID I HAVE TO BUY A VEHICLE BASED ON FUNCTION? I don't, and while I respect your passion for BMW's, you might want to go about it with a different attitude. My priorities have changed, I don't drive like a douchebag that has to take corners at 70mph, I do not need to haul shit, but yes, my RX300 has held more equipment than the X5. And do not even get more started on the interior of my 90's BMW, it is pure shit, after taking the door panel off the X5, I can see not much has changed.

What do you really think ?? :nanana:

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get an H2 then,
post pics so we can see the beautiful H2
just be careful some people could not live with it for more than a month, they sold or traded it quickly after realizing the beauty lol

[QUOTE=x54.4blue]Great photos can you tell us about the specs on the army HMV?

I thought originally they were suppose to have gas turbine but ended up was a diesel which results in it being under powered?[/QUOTE


the ARMY up armorer humvee it is turbo diesel i think if im not mistakin it is about 140 hp but is a lot faster than the non turbo engine which it is slow with the turbo charge i was able to reach about 75 mph driving throght the city of baghdad non stopping at any traffic light at all. it was fun but scary too because u never know where they hide then IED`s.

They constantly bash american cars by criticising their functionality in ways that they weren't designed for. I love that show, but they're so damn anti-US cars it's ridiculous. Gee, let's take a really wide h1 down extremely narrow streets and call it shit. If they owned a panel van would they do the same thing? Let's floor the H2 and watch the MPG gauge go to 1. Hey, do the same thing on an X5 and the MPG gauge goes to 1 too... morons. Let's drive an H2 like a sports car and see how it handles. Ok, let's drive an F430 and see how much it can haul. When they reviewed the C6Z06 it kicked ass in the performance categories and wound up #3 on the board for their test track, ahead of many many euro exotics, yet those buffoons still wouldn't give it any praise... they just walked around it banging on the body panels going "plastic, fiberglass, plastic..." and scowling.... pssst, what SHOULD they have made the car out of to reduce weight? Carbon Fiber? and sold 100 cars because the price would be astronimical to buy AND repair? pfffft

They completely biased and always slant their stories. This is America, if someone wants to buy a Chevy Cobalt, an H1 or H2, a Ferrari or a Vdub, so be it, who cares, it's their choice. When the neighbors with an opinion start helping with the monthly car payment, I'll pay attention to their opinion on what i drive.... until then.... not gonna happen.

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[QUOTE=SGT.Santiago]The new H1's have the 6.6 Duramax with 300HP.

If you really want a BIG suv go get yourself a 04' or 05' Ford Excursion w/6.0 Turbo Diesel. I owned a 04 and it was one of the best vehicles I owned not to mention I got on average 19 MPG in the city and over 24 MPG on the highway.:thumbup:

I think if you're getting a big SUV and you want to go offroading, you can do better by getting something like an LR3, Touareg, etc. They're about the same money, easier to park, drive better, and are great off-road. The Touareg can go anywhere an H2 can.. Especially with the air suspension and locking differentials. The interior of the H2 is horrible. I sat in one recently. I felt like I was in a coffin. The inside is just black plastic, with nothing to break it up. The build quality is abysmal, and the panel gaps are huge. If you're paying $55,000 plus for an SUV, don't you want to get your money's worth? I'd go with a Land Rover or a Touareg. And I know they've got reliability issues, but Land Rover is improving. And, Hummer is GM, and we all know about how great GM's quality is :rolleyes: My friend has an '06 LR3.. Not a single problem yet.

THANKS MAMI ;)

Went to check em out yesterday, most likely gonna get a 06 Pewter Grey 0% financing, cant beat it, thanks to all of the HELPFUL posts