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soccerjunky 11-27-2006 08:59 PM

another enzo split in 2
 
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http://www.viperalley.com/forum/gara...d-injured.html

PersonaNonGrata 11-27-2006 09:06 PM

399 Ferrari Enzos on the road, 399 Ferrari Enzos, if one of those Enzo should happen to fall, 398 Ferrari Enzos on the road. :rofl:

I guess there are far fewer than 398 left. :tsk:

asawadude 11-27-2006 09:26 PM

Duh! One of the articles posted on the website says the driver had purchased the car earlier that same day as the crash. He owned this vehicle for only several hours before nearly killing himself and his friend. :confused:

How friggin' lame is that? Why do so many rich idiots think that their driving skills are commensurate with the capabilities of a supercar?

vinuneuro 11-27-2006 09:47 PM

What part of the country has palm trees and snow?

soccerjunky 11-27-2006 09:50 PM

article says white stuff is from tire

vinuneuro 11-27-2006 10:01 PM

yea, i see that now..would someone like to explain this?

Michelle 11-27-2006 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by vinuneuro
What part of the country has palm trees and snow?

It's foam to put out the fire, silly! :gunner:

Juanted 11-27-2006 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by soccerjunky
article says white stuff is from tire

Not "tire"; the fire. It's probably from the fire extinguishers.

ncx 11-27-2006 10:09 PM

Fire suppressing foam....

vinuneuro 11-27-2006 10:13 PM

Gaahh !ouch:

soccerjunky 11-27-2006 10:15 PM

o yea , lol, should be fire, now that's funny

alpac 11-27-2006 10:53 PM

To crash this car like that he must have gone fast. You need to know that the "Promenade des Anglais" in Nice is part of down town Nice. This is pure craziness and stupidity in my opinion to go that fast in down town Nice at 3pm. I do not care much about him but he could have kill many people including kids over there at that time of the day. :rolleyes:

Thunder22 11-27-2006 11:19 PM

All that needed to happen to crash that car was a little cool weather/road and tires (tires don't grip well when cold), and a heavy right foot, in combination with a slight tug on the wheel to the right or left at the wrong moment.

My friends laugh at me, but I won't take the vette out in the cold weather not because I'm overly protective of the car, but because 405HP in the cold weather on cold tires and a cold road could very easily result in the car getting sideways VERY VERY quickly, despite the traction control and active handling.

SANguru 11-27-2006 11:25 PM

yup. Hell I can get the CS sideways pretty much whenever I want and it doesn't have torque like Ron's Z06. BTW, the fcars and lambo's ARE designed to split in 2 in high speed crashes. It's to keep the passengers safe in the tub.

alpac 11-27-2006 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by gresch
All that needed to happen to crash that car was a little cool weather/road and tires (tires don't grip well when cold), and a heavy right foot, in combination with a slight tug on the wheel to the right or left at the wrong moment.

My friends laugh at me, but I won't take the vette out in the cold weather not because I'm overly protective of the car, but because 405HP in the cold weather on cold tires and a cold road could very easily result in the car getting sideways VERY VERY quickly, despite the traction control and active handling.

But Gresch, this is Nice, the French riviera. There is no cold weather over there. Did you see the palm trees? The last time I can remember about Nice having got snow was during winter 1984.. extremely unusual. But you are right, losing control on a car like this one is very easy. I still think this is irresponsible though. As I said many pedestrian walk on the "Promenade des Anglais" in Nice.

Thunder22 11-27-2006 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by alpac
But Gresch, this is Nice, the French riviera. There is no cold weather over there. Did you see the palm trees? The last time I can remember about Nice having got snow was during winter 1984.. extremely unusual. But you are right, losing control on a car like this one is very easy. I still think this is irresponsible though. As I said many pedestrian walk on the "Promenade des Anglais" in Nice.

I wasn't saying that cold was the cause in this case, I was manking an analogy that even with traction control and active handling on a 405HP vette it's easy to get the car sideways, so it's probably even easier in an Enzo despite the conditions (no TC and AH right?)

SANguru 11-27-2006 11:48 PM

what Ron is referring to is cold tires. Not cold weather.

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Originally Posted by alpac
But Gresch, this is Nice, the French riviera. There is no cold weather over there. Did you see the palm trees? The last time I can remember about Nice having got snow was during winter 1984.. extremely unusual. But you are right, losing control on a car like this one is very easy. I still think this is irresponsible though. As I said many pedestrian walk on the "Promenade des Anglais" in Nice.


SANguru 11-27-2006 11:49 PM

it has ASR. But you still can defy the laws of physics. Just cheat it a little.

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Originally Posted by gresch
I wasn't saying that cold was the cause in this case, I was manking an analogy that even with traction control and active handling on a 405HP vette it's easy to get the car sideways, so it's probably even easier in an Enzo despite the conditions (no TC and AH right?)


Fr0zty 11-27-2006 11:50 PM

http://www.autoblog.com/2006/11/26/a...litician-crit/

Same day???

http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.au...1/72646878.jpg

GUINNESS 11-27-2006 11:54 PM

I guess he should have done a DE :dunno:

Thunder22 11-28-2006 12:06 AM

same guy and story.

rayxi 11-28-2006 12:52 AM

Tires, TC, ASC, whatever...there's one factor that could have saved his car and it was between his ears.

alpac 11-28-2006 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by rayxi
Tires, TC, ASC, whatever...there's one factor that could have saved his car and it was between his ears.

:withstupi

China Man 11-28-2006 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by asawadude
Duh! One of the articles posted on the website says the driver had purchased the car earlier that same day as the crash. He owned this vehicle for only several hours before nearly killing himself and his friend. :confused:

How friggin' lame is that? Why do so many rich idiots think that their driving skills are commensurate with the capabilities of a supercar?

I remember when picking up my E38 750 from my stealer, there was some dude picking up a brand new S55 (the supercharged version). I stayed to chat with the sales manager .... The S55 left , drove 1 mile up the road, turned onto a twisty small road off the main highway, and another 0.5 miles later wraps himself around a tree and cement wall :confused: :tsk: It's nice to know these people spending $110,000 can handle their cars ...:rolleyes:

noncom23 11-28-2006 12:32 PM

So do they all split in a severe crash?:dunno:

X5Jay 11-28-2006 12:53 PM

Sorry, but I can't resist...

I'm sure that'll buff right out! :nanana:


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