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WhiteWhip 04-29-2007 09:42 PM

womens rights
 
Does anyone else think its crazy that slaves got the right to vote in 1866 and women werent allowed to vote till 1915. thats crazy shit

motordavid 04-29-2007 09:51 PM

Doesn't make sense, but what does?

Check your history: blacks got to vote, on occasion,
in about a dozen places, post 1866, and for a long
time after. The Civil Rights Act was a marvelous piece
of legislation that had little to no effect in most parts of the US,
(Tenn was just being readmitted under Reconstruction), and if one
had a beef about not "being treated equal", it usually fell
on deaf ears or by a gunning sheriff or, a lynch mob.

It was, and still is, the basis for equal protection under the law,
discrimination, etc.

Do some homework on Right to Vote, state by state, etc.

Yes, Women were treated as chattel then...

Hope I helped on your homework, lol!
BR,mD

WhiteWhip 04-29-2007 09:58 PM

oh....i was actually on the other sidde of the argument.

soccerjunky 04-29-2007 10:37 PM

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Eric5273 04-29-2007 11:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motordavid
Doesn't make sense, but what does?

Check your history: blacks got to vote, on occasion,
in about a dozen places, post 1866, and for a long
time after. The Civil Rights Act was a marvelous piece
of legislation that had little to no effect in most parts of the US,
(Tenn was just being readmitted under Reconstruction), and if one
had a beef about not "being treated equal", it usually fell
on deaf ears or by a gunning sheriff or, a lynch mob.

It was, and still is, the basis for equal protection under the law,
discrimination, etc.

Do some homework on Right to Vote, state by state, etc.

Yes, Women were treated as chattel then...

Hope I helped on your homework, lol!
BR,mD

:iagree:

As with many other laws, having the law on the books is not enough. They must enforce the law too.

Meiac09 04-29-2007 11:04 PM

"Iron my shirt, bitch!"
:rofl: :bustingup

what an assh*le. reminds me of scooter on the playhouse.

Quicksilver 04-30-2007 04:58 AM

:rolleyes: You want crazy? this is 2007. Read this http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ic-stops_N.htm
Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhip
Does anyone else think its crazy that slaves got the right to vote in 1866 and women werent allowed to vote till 1915. thats crazy shit


Wagner 04-30-2007 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quicksilver
:rolleyes: You want crazy? this is 2007. Read this http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ic-stops_N.htm


I read that yesterday, can't say I agree with those "statistics" in certain situations.

The whole de-segregated prom thread a while back was a far more 'obvious' abuse.

blondboinsd 04-30-2007 11:44 AM

Are you surprised? It's the south, I knew I was in for a surpise when I visited northern Florida and GA but I was still shocked, it's a complete 180 of the more developed states, it is quite a culture shock!

B-Line 04-30-2007 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilver
:rolleyes: You want crazy? this is 2007. Read this http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/...ic-stops_N.htm


Hey QS, while the issue of racial police stops are a serious issue that needs to be addressed and corrected, I couldn't help but think of this segment from Chris Rock. Yes, I know we've all seen it, but it still makes me laugh my ass of..

Best,
B

<< My post has been self edited to exclude video found to be offensive by another member. My bad >>

Quicksilver 04-30-2007 06:09 PM

Sorry B, but the Language was to offensive so i didn't get very far with it.

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Originally Posted by B-Line
Hey QS, while the issue of racial police stops are a serious issue that needs to be addressed and corrected, I couldn't help but think of this segment from Chris Rock. Yes, I know we've all seen it, but it still makes me laugh my ass of..

Best,
B

http://www.glumbert.com/media/policebeat


B-Line 04-30-2007 07:05 PM

My bad QS,

I didn't intentionally post that to offend you or anyone else for that matter. I thought it was in good fun.

My bad,
B

MrLabGuy 04-30-2007 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Eric5273
:iagree:

As with many other laws, having the law on the books is not enough. They must enforce the law too.

Well Eric...I pictured you for a selective enforcement kind of guy. I'm happy to hear you believe we should enforce the laws on the books.

Join us in the fight to deport and arrest illegal aliens and put away drug offenders.

Or is what you just said above Bull Sheit?

WhiteWhip 04-30-2007 07:52 PM

hey........what do you do if your wife is in the livingroom............shorten the chain

Michelle 04-30-2007 07:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhip
hey........what do you do if your wife is in the livingroom............shorten the chain

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

MrLabGuy 04-30-2007 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WhiteWhip
hey........what do you do if your wife is in the livingroom............shorten the chain

Click quickly to another tab and pretend I'm working. Doesn't everyone?

Wagner 04-30-2007 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by B-Line
My bad QS,

I didn't intentionally post that to offend you or anyone else for that matter. I thought it was in good fun.

My bad,
B


I loved it :thumbup:

motordavid 04-30-2007 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhip
...but what do you tell a woman with two black eyes.....nothing she hasnt been told twice

Frankly, while obviously a "joke", I don't find that very humorous.

My wife/CEO of 25 years spent a couple years in her first marriage to
a punqeazz wife beater. Her black eyes, nearly broken arm, bumps
on her head, etc., were not pleasant for her. And, she is involved
with our local group called Reach: a haven and aid assistance for
battered women, of which is nearly epidemic here in western NC.

Grandpappy did it, Pappy did it, so I'm gonna toss the bitch around
the trailer...this orginization hears that daily. This in a County
of only 55,000.

Not a pleasant deal and totally uncalled for, imo.
Not being PC...I just don't see the humor in bouncing one's wife or
girlfriend around.

WhiteWhip 04-30-2007 08:54 PM

im sorry about ur wife but to each his own on the joke thing......i dont tell you how to dress and you dont tell me what to laugh at......

motordavid 04-30-2007 09:15 PM

:confused: ...
I'm not telling you what to laugh at...

You aren't gonna tell me anything beyond what you have told me.

MrLabGuy 04-30-2007 09:17 PM

I must have missed the whole wife/chain meaning. The addition of wives and black eyes is out of my league. My comment was more of a joke about me when the wife catches me on the internet all the time...I quickly change tabs from the chat room to a work related website.

Abusing women is about the weakest thing a man can do in my opinion. Men who beat women need a good thumping by a man twice their size.

Michael

WhiteWhip 04-30-2007 09:21 PM

groan....after those replies i almost thought i was talking to a couple of women

motordavid 04-30-2007 09:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhip
groan....after those replies i almost thought i was talking to a couple of women

Your age and, most importantly, your immaturity is showing.

You started this thread with your incredulity about women's
sufferage.

Jokes are fun; giving women a couple of black eyes is not.
Grow up. Get Real.

MrLabGuy 04-30-2007 09:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhip
groan....after those replies i almost thought i was talking to a couple of women

If beating a woman makes you feel more like a man you must have been a sad child.

We who know better feel sorry for you.

Michael

Quicksilver 04-30-2007 09:41 PM

No policeman here. Jezz speakin for myself. ;)

Quote:

Originally Posted by B-Line
My bad QS,

I didn't intentionally post that to offend you or anyone else for that matter. I thought it was in good fun.

My bad,
B


MrLabGuy 04-30-2007 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhip
wow lab guy....u must be a cop because u got me pegged. 18 years old....location hamptons...im a fuckin sad kid

OOooh the Hamptons. Your parents did well. Rich depressed punks kill themselves all the time. Check back when you make it on your own. Until then you're just a punk who was a strong swimmer on a night his father got lucky.

WhiteWhip 04-30-2007 09:57 PM

i wasnt braggin im just saying that im not that sad or deprived.....and btw none of my friends or people i have ever met killed themselves...im pretty sure its cause they met me

soccerjunky 04-30-2007 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhip
groan....after those replies i almost thought i was talking to a couple of women

got me laughing even tho i know i'm gonna pay for saying that. Whitewip u're a decent person in my book with a good sense of humor.....

WhiteWhip 04-30-2007 11:20 PM

thank you soccer junkie.........im sure u understand that i was just bored and decided to stir up the old pot....nothings funnier than a bunch of old farts bitching about their emotions...

rebound 04-30-2007 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhip
im sorry about ur wife but to each his own on the joke thing......i dont tell you how to dress and you dont tell me what to laugh at......

You might want to re-think your tone with MD.

Not a good way to win any argument, or friends around here...

Eric5273 05-01-2007 01:31 AM

;ot:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrLabGuy
Well Eric...I pictured you for a selective enforcement kind of guy. I'm happy to hear you believe we should enforce the laws on the books.

Join us in the fight to deport and arrest illegal aliens and put away drug offenders.

Or is what you just said above Bull Sheit?

No, that is what I believe. I don't agree with all the laws, and definately think some should be changed, but if you have a law on the books, either get rid of it (change the law) or else enforce it. Ignoring it is just stupid.

As for drug offenders, I've never heard someone express an opinion that not enough of them are being put away. Just the opposite, most people complain that too many drug offenders are cluttering up the prison system. We have more people per capita in prison than any other country in the world. Here in New York State, the population hasn't changed much since 1970. In 1970, New York State had 7 prisons. Today we have 73, and are still building new ones every year.

What you have to understand is that crime is not a cause but a symptom. To eliminate it, you must prevent it, not only deal with it once it happens. All too often people only want to "fight" crime, and not deal with the underlying causes of crime. The result of that is that one out of every 100 Americans is behind bars.

Quicksilver 05-01-2007 04:06 AM

Whitewhip

You won't get no support from me on this one either. Personally :iagree: with MD. One thing your right about there are a few old farts around here who #1 prefer not hearing a potty mouth and #2 believe respecting women is important. :nanana:

Quote:

Originally Posted by motordavid
Your age and, most importantly, your immaturity is showing.

You started this thread with your incredulity about women's
sufferage.

Jokes are fun; giving women a couple of black eyes is not.
Grow up. Get Real.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhip
thank you soccer junkie.........im sure u understand that i was just bored and decided to stir up the old pot....nothings funnier than a bunch of old farts bitching about their emotions...


Wagner 05-01-2007 05:50 AM

Here we go :)

- I think MD took it a little personally on the joke front, but since this is a public arena, public responses are to be expected.

- Quick had his own public comments, which are fine.

- Seems WhiteWhipperSnapper took the responses a little personally instead of just brushing them off for what they're worth.

Bottom line, not everyone is going to think your sh_t is funny. Don't cry about it when you find that out.

JCL 05-01-2007 05:56 AM

I am with MD and supporters.

I don't think there was anything funny about it, and that it was offensive. Yes, it is a public forum, but a modicum of respect never hurt anybody.

Whitewhippersnapper, it isn't about us telling you what to laugh at, you can laugh at whatever you like. It is about you broadcasting material that has no place in society.

If that makes me an old fart, then so be it. I just thought it made us human.

soccerjunky 05-01-2007 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhip
thank you soccer junkie.........im sure u understand that i was just bored and decided to stir up the old pot....nothings funnier than a bunch of old farts bitching about their emotions...

What did i get myself into here. I thought u're jokes were funny and people were over reacting a little bit. Calling guys old farts implies that their opinions are worth less than yours so the old fart comment was uncalled for. I do not support physical abuse against women even though sean connery says that it is warranted when the time is right

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FgMLROTqJ0&NR

the head 05-01-2007 11:01 AM

Everyone has certian subjects that are thier "sacred cows" things that for whatever reason trigger responses such as this...remeber this is a public forum...thats right kiddies publik 4um...which means that people may not always agree with your opinion...that goes for both sides on this thing...you always have the choice to read something or not...you chose to read it didn't like it? fine...feel that it was in poor taste? say something! then leave the thread instead of trying to force your opinion on others if you are posting multiple times then hey you are now an active participant in the tread that offended you...it's the internet do you honestly think your opinion is really going to matter to another person?

motordavid 05-01-2007 03:04 PM

No sacred cows in my backyard...just common, human sense.

Eric5273 05-01-2007 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motordavid
No sacred cows in my backyard...just common, human sense.

Sometimes common sense isn't so common. ;)

the head 05-01-2007 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by motordavid
No sacred cows in my backyard...just common, human sense.

which is as arbitrary as common levels of decency...and obviously you do have a "sacred cow" about this issue because that is a tremendously old joke...granted a joke in poor taste but a joke just the same...if this was not your "sacred cow" then it would not have caused your overreaction.

motordavid 05-01-2007 05:24 PM

Head, I'm gonna take an El Paso on this continual rhubarb and
arm wrestle, after my last 2Cts...

Let me say this, clearly to you and, to anyone else:

Abusing women, or men, in a marriage or relationship, or in
some manner not defending oneself, is not OK, imo.

My wife was abused so obviously I am aware/sensitive
to that situ, normal, abnormal...take your fookin pick.

As to my "overreaction": I have never molested a kid nor,
was I molested as a kid, yet I wouldn't find child molestation
"jokes" funny either. I was never screwed over or, to my knowledge,
screwed over someone based on their/my veneer color. Yet, I don't
find racial jokes very funny, either.

My point is: the OP was incredulous about Women's Sufferage coming
officially so "late" after the Civil Rights Act of 1866, and it turned into
some jokes and commentary. One of those jokes I objected to, as giving
a women 2 shiners was, imo, not a funny joke, nor something to be joked
about and made light of...

And, here we are, with who struck John and who's on first.

My point was and is, that abusing a spouse or partner is not the
human way to proceed in a relationship; yes, it happens. To make
light of it in a snidely, vacuous manner is off base, In My Opinion.

Sorry if I missed that "old joke" the first few times around.

I'm done with this thread. There may be other comment and, opins are
certainly like azzholes, but I'm through with this.
Good Luck, mD

rebound 05-01-2007 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the head
which is as arbitrary as common levels of decency...and obviously you do have a "sacred cow" about this issue because that is a tremendously old joke...granted a joke in poor taste but a joke just the same...if this was not your "sacred cow" then it would not have caused your overreaction.

Looks like you succeeded in fulfilling your sig line.


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