Iphone question:
 

I just bought an Iphone. Haven't opened it from it's packaging yet.

I am currently an AT&T user (on a business plan) and have a Blackberry 8800 with SIM card and data plan.

Can't I just switch my sim card from the Blackberry into the Iphone?

B

Hmm, looks like iPhones don't do SIM:
http://www.thinkmac.net/blogs/jcost/...-and-sim-cards

The sim slot is on the top of the phone.. You need a paperclip to open it up..
At least, that is what was shown to me at the apple store.

B

Sims not activated via iTunes will not work.

Mickey,

I don't think I understand your response??

Are you saying, I can not just drop my SIM into the Iphone and have it work?
My SIM is already activated on my BB. So can't I just pop it in?

B

p.s. - She invented a great product that has saved lots of lives !!

The phone has to be activated via iTunes with a SIM even if the SIM is a working SIM from a non-iphone. Simply popping in the card will not work.

Here are some pics from a link Quicksilver posted last week. You can see how the SIM card goes in. It is not intended to be removable by the user. Like everyone else stated, I've read that you cannot use another SIM car. Inside the iPhone:

http://www.ifixit.com/Parts/images/s...large/8-21.jpg
http://www.ifixit.com/Parts/images/s...large/9-21.jpg

Here's your answer.

http://www.tuaw.com/2007/06/27/no-si...e-activation/2

The iPhone cannot work on a non-iPhone plan. The Blackberry plan will not work. You need an iPhone plan. Good news is that the iPhone plan is actually less expensive than your blackberry plan. But I don't think you can use an iPhone on a business plan.

Great, thanks..

now I just got to figure out how to switch my business phone over to a personal one.. What a PITA.. Is my business account not good enough for them?

B

So if I decide to keep this phone, then activate it, and a year later a better one comes out, am I locked into this phone for two years?

B

Are you ready to give up push e-mail? I didn't think the iPhone worked with MS Exchange or BBES.

I'm sure they'd "let" you buy the newer handset with another 2 year extension of your contract. That seems to be the way ATT has done things over the years. It'll be another $500 I'd bet and you'd be stuck with your 1st gen iPhone that you could try to flog on eBay I guess.

So, if I get locked into this two year contract.. Can I pay to cancel it?

Sorry for all these questions.. But I have the thing, sitting on my desk charging, and I want to be sure about it before I go through the steps of porting my number to a personal account, etc.

Cancellation will surely result in an ETF (Early Termination Fee, in their lingo). FWIW, if I were you and had the BB Pearl that you seem very happy with, I'd wait until newer version come out. You will never lose out by waiting for tech items. Prices will inevitably come down and/or the product will get better.

I hear ya Kev, and I know your right.. But I got sucked into all those neat little ads.. The thing is sitting on my desk and boy, is it pretty.
I figure I've got two weeks to give it the run around, lets see what this damn thing has got going for it. I can always return it.

As far as push email, I'm not sure how the email will work. I have a bunch of different email sources, hopefully they will all sync, no problem.

I'll keep you posted.

B

That was super quick.. I'm already activated and my CPU is already syncing.

B

I was in the same position as you with a business account. I had to move one of the lines to my personal account and they happily activated the iphone using that line. You are stuck with 2 years yes..and there is I think a $175 ET-fee.

Come on bro keep em both. Write off......... :nanana:

Holy Crap-o-la... This phone is freaking awesome.. To all you nay sayers... Your smoking crack.. I love this thing..

B

Welcome to the dark side.

:rofl: :rofl: <evil laugh>

:nanana:

I can't believe it. What the.............. :rofl:
Are you gonna keep the other phone???

I'll probably keep the BB 8800 as a backup.. Or give it to our office assistant or something.
No, the Iphone is not perfect, but the screen in nothing less than beautiful. I have my entire itunes collection on my phone, I have about 10 episodes of south park on the system.. Most importantly, I have both my thesis film and another short I directed on the Iphone, and they actually look and sound amazing.
I have a broad section of my photo's from Iphoto that live on my Iphone now. AND MOST IMPORTANTLY... My calendar, contacts, bookmarks, etc. sync up with absouletely no thoughts or problems.

It is literallly like carrying around a portable Apple computer with a phone to boot.

I agree with Eric, the typing takes a bit of getting used to, it's easy to miss your intended key, but the system also seems to have an intelligence, if you miss type, it often knows what word you "meant" to type and corrects it for you. Still though, it's a little slow typing.. No better or worse than a BB. Just different.

I have only discovered one thing that annoys me so far and I'm not sure if I'm just using the system wrong, I do have to ask the phone to retrieve my email, rather than it just appearing. And it doesn't seem to combine two mailboxes, so I have to check each of my emails seperately.
But again, that my just be a DUE (Dumb User Error.)

But the interface on this phone is insane, it is light, portable, beautiful, sounds great, etc.

Can I find fault with it, yes, but overall, I say to Apple, job well done. I'm excited to see what type of improvements software will bring and even what the next hardware edition will be.

Again, I've only had it working for a couple hours, so in a week from now, I might just hate it. But I think not.

B

My understanding is that only Yahoo email has "push" email with the iPhone. However, you can set it up to check your email every 15 minutes, which I think is plenty quick for most people. So unless you are someone who needs to see your email within 2 minutes of it hitting your inbox, you should be fine.

Interesting ;-)

What bugged me was phone volume/speaker quality which may or may not be fixable via firmware.

Major gripe next to that was email integration, etc.
While I never had hopes that it would replace my Bberry, I did expect at least a decent email UI which does not seem to be the case.

I may revisit it another day ;-)

For all of you who were disappointed that the iPhone does not include any IM software, take a look at this....

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2007/0...re-for-iphone/

Trillian for iPhone coming soon!! :hawt:


http://blog.ceruleanstudios.com/wp-c...r-iphone-s.jpg

I just noticed something that I had not noticed since I started using the iPhone a week ago. The calendar icon on the home screen changes to say the current date & day of the week.

I have nothing to add but wanted to try posting from my new HTC Mogul. Viewing X5world on it ain't bad and the QWERTY keyboard makes typing easy. Oh yes, EV-DO is fast. I can't wait for EV-DO Rev. A. :D

What's up with the more expensive rate plans and having to add the data plan. They are just milking money out of everyone!

The rate plans are not more expensive. They are the same as with any other phone.

But yes, you do need a data plan because the visual voicemail uses data. Without the data plan, you wouldn't be notified when you had a new voicemail as the phone does not have a normal voicemail capability like other phones, just the visual voicemail feature.

Those of you who own one..how's the size? Seems a little large to be portable..

It's about the same footprint as my Treo 680 was, but half the thickness.

Here's a good comparison shot next to a RAZR (and it's thinner than the RAZR):

http://www.whoisgregg.com/blog/wp-co...-razr-slvr.jpg

The area s larger seemsis what I meant (lengthxwidth). Is it pant pocketable? I'll get around to going to the Apple Store one of these days..

The size of the phone is not a problem its the case sizes that are currently to big. You don't want to scratch the thing so you wind up trying to protect it with these silly cases.

Ive been a nokia fan ever since, im using a n80 on this post right now, but im totally sold on the iphone when i tried it at d apple store, def getn one

its about as big as my old treo 650, BUT 1/3 the thickness...you dont even feel it in your pocket.

NO, your locked to Cingular for two years, not the phone. You can buy a new phone everyday as long as you stay on Cingular.

My monthly fee dropped $40 per month...so the phone will be free when I'm done.

I was paying $49/mo for unlimited data + $9.00 for text messaging. iPhone plan is $20 for data and includes 200 text messages for free.

I came from a HTC TyTn (unlocked Cingular 8525) w/ Exchange email, 3.5 G service (getting 600-900kbps) and WM6...I thought I would have to keep both phones.

The Tytn is on Ebay right now...NO WAY I could ever go back! The iPhone is AMAZING!!

BTW- The iPhone does not have push, but it will talk to my Exchange 2003 Server and pulls email down every 15 minutes or on demand and I really have not missed push as much as I thought. Apple is rumored to be adding full Exchange support very soon though.

I don't know if this has been posted yet, but I know there have been some questions about SIM card swapping with the iPhone to other devices. I was able to swap my new iTunes activated SIM card from my iPhone into my Razr (already had AT&T service) and my Razr worked fine. I know some people swap between multiple phones for different uses. I don't know if anyone has tried to put the new SIM card into a blackberry, but it does work on a Razr.

It won't work on a Blackberry, but it will work fine on almost any other AT&T phone. AT&T had posted this at their website. Apparently the iPhone data plan is basically the same as their MediaMax bundle which includes access to their MediaNet portal which is what you have on your RAZR and is also on most of their phones. Blackberrys have a different plan allowing for the push email, and I doubt that would work with the iPhone data plan.

Actually there is no reason why it wont....but you would need to ADD the blackberry plan to your account. I had a HTC Tytn (8525) and used it for a long time with the MediaNet (WAP) plan and had push Exchange. I only recently switched to the $50 ISP plan and honestly there was absolutley no difference!

Yeah, but that's because both of those plans ("MediaNet" and "PDA Connect") both use regular Cingular/AT&T APN's. MediaNet uses the wap.cingular APN and PDA Connect uses the isp.cingular APN. Both are regular gateways to the internet. Blackberry plans use the Blackberry.net APN which gives access to Blackberry's push email server. However, if you have the Blackberry plan on your account, then I don't think you can use a regular non-blackberry browser as the Blackberry server would probably reject your device and not allow access.

You could try it, but it is my opinion that it would not work.

yep, you are correct. I forgot about that...its either/or

aww shiet. i played with one at the AT&T store today.
like coke.