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Quicksilver 08-25-2007 09:47 PM

Do these people really think AT&T and Apple are just gonna stand by???
 
:confused:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/pcworld/2007...PZFQuVLdkE1vAI

AutoXer 08-25-2007 11:54 PM

I would buy an iphone if I can unlock it :) I have t-mobile and stuck in a 2-year contract.

Ed Garces 08-26-2007 03:18 AM

These hackers did a few of these with the Treo and a few of them were good, I actually used one of them. I don't remember Palm doing anything in terms of patches or updates to prevent the hacking.

With Apple, it might be a different ball game. They have full control and easy access on all active iPhones through iTunes and I think Apple would not like losing control at all specially with a high profile product and a brand new venture like this. I suspect that the next update will easily disable these hacks to a point. But then again unlocking the iPhone could give Apple additional revenues (AutoXer will be one of them) so they may ignore this activity for a while until AT&T demands the patch to protect its investment :rofl:

Wagner 08-26-2007 07:25 AM

Silly Apple folks.

Juanted 08-26-2007 08:48 AM

For once, this is not about Apple. The suit (or threat of suit) was not brought in by Apple, but by AT&T. Apple will sell iPhones by the boatload -- regardless of the carrier. It's AT&T that stands to lose money.

But yeah, these guys were dumb to think that AT&T would stand still and do nothing.

Juan

Thunder22 08-26-2007 08:55 AM

I'm confused a bit here, what leg does Apple or AT&T have to stand on here? What's the legal precedent? Is there language in the licensing agreement that prohibits a consumer from attempting to unlock the phone?

Considering that people have been unlocking all sorts of makes and models of phones and using them on various carriers, why does Apple/AT&T think that the iPhone is immune to this?

just curious...

MiCkEy 08-26-2007 09:00 AM

BS on the news. Watch the software "go in the wild" soon. This is not going to stop a bunch of hax0rs releasing it on their own (some might end up making money) but eventually everyone will have it.

Apple makes $$, AT&T loses on this one. I am guessing this will be a cat and mouse game between Apple and the hax0rs. It might even be more of a show and tell between them.

Eric5273 08-26-2007 03:27 PM

There's nothing that AT&T or Apple can do legally. I would guess that Apple does not care since they will simply sell extra iPhones. AT&T is the one that cares since they would be losing their exclusivity on the iPhone. But is there anything they can really do? They can insist that Apple issue an update which disables the unlocking, but that would only be effective on new iPhones sold from that point forward. Older ones would already be able to be unlocked.

UCrewX5 08-26-2007 03:55 PM

Actually I am betting that Apple does care. Why, you may ask. Well for one, I suspect that there is a revenue sharing arrangement between AT&T and Apple, much like there is expected to be with the service providers in Europe that Apple is about to sign deals with. So beyond protecting its intellectual property rights and keeping its business partner happy, Apple has a financial interest in keeping the iPhone working exclusively on the AT&T network in the United States.

AutoXer 08-26-2007 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UCrewX5
Actually I am betting that Apple does care. Why, you may ask. Well for one, I suspect that there is a revenue sharing arrangement between AT&T and Apple, much like there is expected to be with the service providers in Europe that Apple is about to sign deals with. So beyond protecting its intellectual property rights and keeping its business partner happy, Apple has a financial interest in keeping the iPhone working exclusively on the AT&T network in the United States.

I am sure that APPL cares and that they are on a revenue sharing plan with AT&T. In the US, the phone only works on the AT&T and t-mobile network, and AT&T have the lion's share of the market. They made the right decision in going with AT&T. In Europe, I think the market is different, and the phone can work on all the networks, so I think APPL has more of an incentive to get in with all the phone companies there.


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